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Originally Posted by Navarre
so why use this kind of medioevale torture (yes, very technological, indeed)  |
Am not agree completely. Sure, in the hands of dilettante can be a electrical collar a torture tool. But in the hands a really specialist can help very much. Electrical collar was not developt for "win a competition" but for the hunting dogs mostly for teach him dont eat the snared animals. And by other dogs was starting to use for unlearn the different unwanted habits (hunting instinct, agressivity etc.). Who use this collar for regulary training only for hurry up the process - this is in my eyes really wrong.
Am seen just such cases as well. But am seen used electrical collar by CsW for eliminate the hunting instinct (the dog run e.g. over the highway for the rabbit) and with absolutely succes - dog listen the command, that dont hunt and his character is very well without any "trace" of electric collar using.
Any tool for training must be using with knowledges or experiences. Electrical collar is extreme case and this is reason, why the user must have a extreme high experiences for it. Similary is it by using spiky collar. It can help very much as well but can very fast broken the dog as well.
I dont see anything wrong on using this training tools. But everything must be using "with not empty head". An what is most important, the penalty and reward must be always well balanced. After high penalty for something wrong must be a high reward for the excellent training result. Go to training scholl and watch the people there. Mostly you will see, that no ballance between penalty and reward. First group of people penalisated the dogs very hard and if the dog doing something well, then say "good boy" only. Or other extrem - so called "positive motivation" (today very populary in some countries of western Europe), when never penalisated the dog. Both systems are wrong.
And on the end I must say, that am not 100% as well, of course. Am tend more to the first group of people and some time penalisated the dog more, then rewarding. Nobody's perfect.
Pavel