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Originally Posted by johnslawek
I feel compelled to address all the misinformation of Crying Wolf kennel as I own Frida Crying Wolf in the USA.
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if you think about other men which write here - they also have dogs from CW. and they have their own opinion. they have right to write. they were by Edith and write what they see. do you took you pup in Europe? do you come here? or do you get pup just on airport? maybe other people who write here know more?
if you mean me - i write what i see. and what you can see on the bonitacions - only few dogs passed them and with not very good notes for charactere. you can control it in database. it is not my opinion. but i do not want to say that Crying wolf kennel is worser as others if we speak about character. i just only show that more owners complain in forums about character as by other breeders - but maybe i do not know everything, maybe because this kennel produced more pups as others...
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Originally Posted by johnslawek
To poorly broadcast such misinformation concerning Crying Wolf in this manner in the USA would be libel and that could carry severe consequences.
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and freedom of speach? you can write "always displayed high spirit and vigor" and other owners can write what they see and what they think. maybe they are wrong. maybe lunatica of massimo is untrusty because he are not socialised her very good. maybe Christan don't know this breed and was not able to train dog so the dog become problematic. but they have the right to write what they think. and what they see.
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Originally Posted by lorry
I'm the French breeder with the afix La Mollyniere de Lo'Scale and I have import 3 dogs from Crying wolf!
I'm fan of the selection work made by Edit Molnar and I find her work very interessing at all
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i do not know the rules in france. maybe it is no problem for you. but for me it is sorry - i wrote i like the look of Crying wolf dogs. it is true. but i want to use dogs which have the bonitaction. if the charactere is not ok - i will not use it. if the dog is too small - and i see many dogs i met was small - too small. my bitch is 64 cm so i know when male dog is as high as she or small. if a male is not bigger as she it always mean male have no 65 min so it is smaller as minimum in stardard. and i saw bonitacions where male was hard to reach with them the minimum. in france you do not need bonitation but here it is very important.
but i know some dogs from Crying wolf, very nice dogs which are not small. but i can not use them. it is because of the hd. you can ask Czech or Slovak breeders and i think International Federation say it - if you make couple and one dog do not have good hips the second dog must have perfect x-rays. Czech and Slovak Club and Lithuanian cynological society are for health of breed - so they say that breeder can not make couples of two dogs hd-b and hd-b, or hd-b and hd-c or hd-c and hd-b. you can make only hd-c and hd-a, hd-b and hd-a and hd-a and hd-a. other is simply not possible and if a breeder make something like this i think he will not have papers for the pups. because it is not allowed and not ok. also the people which want to have pups control it. so i can not use many dogs because if they will see the pedigree they will say i am not a good breeder. you have rambo so you know it. i see photo. he is nice dog but i as breeder can not use he because of pedigree because by his parents and grandparents there is noteven 1 dog which is hd-a. all are hd-b, hd-c...
for some people hd in pedigree is not a problem because if someone want have family dog (until dog have no problems with hips). but i am a breeder and i must take made something good for wolfdogs.
lorry, i checked your kennel and i see that for you it is also not a problem because you do not check your dogs. so if you do not check it maybe x-rays are not important for you. i care for health of my pups and it is important for me. i do not want to be affraid to breed ill dogs. so i use only dogs with x-rays and only with good pedigrees (not too many bad results as possible).
i also see you dogs live in kennels (sorry if i am wrong but i see it on photos). if a dog live in kennel it is not a problem if the charactere is not good. you can close it. but problems with shy and not socialised dogs have people when dogs live at homes. for me if someone want good dog for home, for work and for friend people should never buy pups from kennel dogs because most of problematic dogs are kennel pups.
massimo, you write breeders do not publish all x-rays. now it is not a problem to make x-rays in all countries. so if i see litter with missing x-rays i am almost sure the breeder want to hide them because they are not good. if i see new dog pedigree with missing x-rays i always put there hd-d or hd-e (if the breeder do not want to check dog or not publish x-rays so i think the dog must not be heathly). and i will never buy a pup from a breeder who do not check couples. because it is not a good breeder. it is for sure a mas producer.
P.S.i am not against Crying wolf dogs. some time ago i though to go long way and about cover my female with one of CW dogs. but when i saw they are so small and do not have good hd results and i see it in pedigree i decided not to do it. it is not only problem with CW dogs and there are other breeders which have the same problems. it is not a problem if not dogs are heathy and nice and big from one kennel. but for me as breeder it is something what i can not accept if i see a problem is visible in pedigree...
