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Nebulosa · 08-07-2011, 21:54

I opened this topic to serve as guide for those who are contacted by interested people from other continents, mainly Russia, North America and South America
Please read this topic, follow it and respect what is written here, it will help the far-away-from-Europe breeders to select and improve the breed in their countries. It will also help to avoid problems for them with possible vlcaks bred at puppy mills and will help to provide safety to the life of your pup, the amazing and innocent creature that you, the breeder, brought to this world, saw birth and raised till 3 months.

Keep in mind that every importation means for the breeders at that country a possibility to open the lines, to refresh the blood, to introduce new features, to have a new interesting stud without the need to travel as far as Europe to search and attempt to bring a stud. This means that each import is a HUGE opportunity and very important for the breed in that country, even if the owners want a mere pet.

Each country has both positive and negative aspects which may differ strongly from those you're used to. This also includes dog lifestyle and owners’ reactions and responsibilities. Each country has its own cultural differences and unique reality. It means that in some countries if a dog gets abandoned, it will go to a shelter, be neutered and wait with food and safe place until a new human is found for him, while in other places the same dog will have down-counted 3 days of life in a shelter full of dogs without food or water, being put to sleep after the 3 days, often in not such a "nice" way as lethal injections.

There have also been cases when a local responsible breeder refused to sell a pup to the person who is now mailing a European breeder interested to acquire a pup. The local breeder found the potential owner unprepared to have a dog of a hard breed like CSV or does not deserve to have it due to merely commercial interest in the possible future litters with the "new wolfish rare breed", better say, puppy mills.

European breeders, please trust me: what local breeders most wish are new imports to their country, new imports of dogs with interesting blood for THEM, for THAT country. So to have several pups imported from the same kennel with the same bloodline if not the same parents is neither interesting for the reasonable breeders, nor for the country breeding policy. It’s just a waste of great opportunity! For example, why we (Brazilians) would import pup's from close relatives of Jezebeth? Or USA import pup's from a close relatives of Anthea?! It's only an example, of course.

So what should you, as a responsible dog lover and breeder do when someone wants to import a pup from you?

Contact the local breeder of the country in question, ask him if he knows the possible owner and if he could evaluate that person for you.
It's easier to communicate and evaluate someone else in their mother tongue, also it’s easier for the breeder to find information and get tips about that possible owner from other breeders or dog-people. If feasible, the local breeder surely will invite the interested people to meet personally the breed and see their reactions and also to talk with them to have a better idea of who they are. It will later help these people to contact the breeder and have an open talk in case they happen to have hard time with the new dog and when they need help/tips from someone with bigger experience,.

Be sure that the local breeder will be able to rescue your dog if something happen, unless YOU are able to travel and pick him back in time!
If the breeder doesn’t tell you “that's ok” , ask him about the situation. We all know it's hypothetical but it can happen even in the best homes. If the local breeder or his contacts are unable to help the puppy, very probably this would mean a tragic end for the dog. I warn you about it because depending on the place it might be relatively easy for the dog to arrive by plane from outside the country, but very hard for the local breeder to arrive there by air to save the dog in due time. Not all countries have roads everywhere which would make it possible to go by car, as example. If someone sends a dog to Amazonas state, I can get there by car after driving over 4000 km and travelling by ferryboat for over 3 days to arrive in the main city. Do you seriously think the owner of the dog will want to pay for the trip (both are expensive!)? No, I will have to pay it. I will have to find time to travel all the way if I had no luck enough to find an airplane passage which would allow me to bring back the dog. Again, this is only an example, but I want to show you the how complicated it might be to save your dog, should it need help.

Ok, the owner is in your continent, but in different country and there are no local breeders or trustworthy local breeders. What should I do?
The same, contact the closer local breeder you trust and ask him about the hypothetical situation of the necessity to rescue the dog. Depending on the country it will be either easy for the local breeder in question to travel to rescue the dog even by airplane or it will be almost impossible.

And what if my dog is not interesting to the breed in the other country?!
You, as a responsible breeder has made an interesting mate for you, for the future of your kennel and your country as you search for in every litter you do with your females, right?! Why would a responsible breeder find problems in not wasting his work, which will help his country, by sending his pup abroad to a place where the bloodline of his pup will not be of any help or will be useless for the other-country breeding? To a place the breeder will not be able to reach to use this dog in the future, in a place that "if something bad happen" this pup will depend of the good will of someone else to be rescued? An importing possibility is like a gold stone to far-away breeders, it should not be wasted.

This is a very important point, I know some breeders who blindly sell their dogs to other continents only because people there pay better prices for the pups than in the country where the breeder lives. They see the puppies sold to the far-away places as "extra-money", also as a way to "hide" their lack of respect for the breed. They call themselves breeders, but the truth is they are noting more than nice puppy mills which don’t care for the future of their pups

I would like to thanks all those breeders who have already had this conscience and contacted me (and Marcy?) before sending a pup or simply had passed our contacts to the interested people from our country.

I will continue this topic later and improve it with the help of the users

08-07-2011, 21:54	#1
Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 1,334	Sending a dog to a different continent - Guide for breeders I opened this topic to serve as guide for those who are contacted by interested people from other continents, mainly Russia, North America and South America Please read this topic, follow it and respect what is written here, it will help the far-away-from-Europe breeders to select and improve the breed in their countries. It will also help to avoid problems for them with possible vlcaks bred at puppy mills and will help to provide safety to the life of your pup, the amazing and innocent creature that you, the breeder, brought to this world, saw birth and raised till 3 months. Keep in mind that every importation means for the breeders at that country a possibility to open the lines, to refresh the blood, to introduce new features, to have a new interesting stud without the need to travel as far as Europe to search and attempt to bring a stud. This means that each import is a HUGE opportunity and very important for the breed in that country, even if the owners want a mere pet. Each country has both positive and negative aspects which may differ strongly from those you're used to. This also includes dog lifestyle and owners’ reactions and responsibilities. Each country has its own cultural differences and unique reality. It means that in some countries if a dog gets abandoned, it will go to a shelter, be neutered and wait with food and safe place until a new human is found for him, while in other places the same dog will have down-counted 3 days of life in a shelter full of dogs without food or water, being put to sleep after the 3 days, often in not such a "nice" way as lethal injections. There have also been cases when a local responsible breeder refused to sell a pup to the person who is now mailing a European breeder interested to acquire a pup. The local breeder found the potential owner unprepared to have a dog of a hard breed like CSV or does not deserve to have it due to merely commercial interest in the possible future litters with the "new wolfish rare breed", better say, puppy mills. European breeders, please trust me: what local breeders most wish are new imports to their country, new imports of dogs with interesting blood for THEM, for THAT country. So to have several pups imported from the same kennel with the same bloodline if not the same parents is neither interesting for the reasonable breeders, nor for the country breeding policy. It’s just a waste of great opportunity! For example, why we (Brazilians) would import pup's from close relatives of Jezebeth? Or USA import pup's from a close relatives of Anthea?! It's only an example, of course. So what should you, as a responsible dog lover and breeder do when someone wants to import a pup from you? Contact the local breeder of the country in question, ask him if he knows the possible owner and if he could evaluate that person for you. It's easier to communicate and evaluate someone else in their mother tongue, also it’s easier for the breeder to find information and get tips about that possible owner from other breeders or dog-people. If feasible, the local breeder surely will invite the interested people to meet personally the breed and see their reactions and also to talk with them to have a better idea of who they are. It will later help these people to contact the breeder and have an open talk in case they happen to have hard time with the new dog and when they need help/tips from someone with bigger experience,. Be sure that the local breeder will be able to rescue your dog if something happen, unless YOU are able to travel and pick him back in time! If the breeder doesn’t tell you “that's ok” , ask him about the situation. We all know it's hypothetical but it can happen even in the best homes. If the local breeder or his contacts are unable to help the puppy, very probably this would mean a tragic end for the dog. I warn you about it because depending on the place it might be relatively easy for the dog to arrive by plane from outside the country, but very hard for the local breeder to arrive there by air to save the dog in due time. Not all countries have roads everywhere which would make it possible to go by car, as example. If someone sends a dog to Amazonas state, I can get there by car after driving over 4000 km and travelling by ferryboat for over 3 days to arrive in the main city. Do you seriously think the owner of the dog will want to pay for the trip (both are expensive!)? No, I will have to pay it. I will have to find time to travel all the way if I had no luck enough to find an airplane passage which would allow me to bring back the dog. Again, this is only an example, but I want to show you the how complicated it might be to save your dog, should it need help. Ok, the owner is in your continent, but in different country and there are no local breeders or trustworthy local breeders. What should I do? The same, contact the closer local breeder you trust and ask him about the hypothetical situation of the necessity to rescue the dog. Depending on the country it will be either easy for the local breeder in question to travel to rescue the dog even by airplane or it will be almost impossible. And what if my dog is not interesting to the breed in the other country?! You, as a responsible breeder has made an interesting mate for you, for the future of your kennel and your country as you search for in every litter you do with your females, right?! Why would a responsible breeder find problems in not wasting his work, which will help his country, by sending his pup abroad to a place where the bloodline of his pup will not be of any help or will be useless for the other-country breeding? To a place the breeder will not be able to reach to use this dog in the future, in a place that "if something bad happen" this pup will depend of the good will of someone else to be rescued? An importing possibility is like a gold stone to far-away breeders, it should not be wasted. This is a very important point, I know some breeders who blindly sell their dogs to other continents only because people there pay better prices for the pups than in the country where the breeder lives. They see the puppies sold to the far-away places as "extra-money", also as a way to "hide" their lack of respect for the breed. They call themselves breeders, but the truth is they are noting more than nice puppy mills which don’t care for the future of their pups I would like to thanks all those breeders who have already had this conscience and contacted me (and Marcy?) before sending a pup or simply had passed our contacts to the interested people from our country. I will continue this topic later and improve it with the help of the users __________________ Last edited by Nebulosa; 11-07-2011 at 05:22.