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Silvester · 02-06-2011, 09:07

Originally posted by Jennin Lauma :

"It is possible for all breeds that are derived from GSD, to carry these genes.
But like someone allready said, it would be likely to have happened more often in CsV allready, if they would have had the brown (bb) gene in them from the beginning.
So it is more realistic to think that it derives from a lot more recent heritage; propably from last decades mixing with Saarloos."

(Hmmm..."last decades ??" - Yeah may be - but may be more probably in some of last one or two generations before...! )

But very good informations ! The whole posting is very interesting especially also what was told about "reddish" ( pheomelanistic ) wild wolves.

It´s quite probably that this kind of colour / pigmentation in nature is caused by inbreed in small population of wolves- like in Finland.

The pictures are great also ! I never saw photos of pheomelanistic wolves, ( and in comparison to normal coloured ones !) ...very well done !

Originally posted by Nebulosa:
"...but that maybe all the pups of one litter does not belong to the same father, in this case im not thinking about the possibilitie of cheating but remembering that the same litter can have 2 or more fathers depending on the ovulation of the female and when the male covered, also that we all know that wolfdogs are scape artists, much more when you have crazy males and a female in heat."

That is completely true also.

Best greetings, Silvester

02-06-2011, 09:07	#35
Silvester Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 369	Originally posted by Jennin Lauma : "It is possible for all breeds that are derived from GSD, to carry these genes. But like someone allready said, it would be likely to have happened more often in CsV allready, if they would have had the brown (bb) gene in them from the beginning. So it is more realistic to think that it derives from a lot more recent heritage; propably from last decades mixing with Saarloos." (Hmmm..."last decades ??" - Yeah may be - but may be more probably in some of last one or two generations before...! ) But very good informations ! The whole posting is very interesting especially also what was told about "reddish" ( pheomelanistic ) wild wolves. It´s quite probably that this kind of colour / pigmentation in nature is caused by inbreed in small population of wolves- like in Finland. The pictures are great also ! I never saw photos of pheomelanistic wolves, ( and in comparison to normal coloured ones !) ...very well done ! Originally posted by Nebulosa: "...but that maybe all the pups of one litter does not belong to the same father, in this case im not thinking about the possibilitie of cheating but remembering that the same litter can have 2 or more fathers depending on the ovulation of the female and when the male covered, also that we all know that wolfdogs are scape artists, much more when you have crazy males and a female in heat." That is completely true also. Best greetings, Silvester Last edited by Silvester; 02-06-2011 at 09:19.