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Originally Posted by Mirkawolf

The dogs with real long coat, such as the examples of Italian and French dogs, stay long-haired all year round, just as German shepherds do. And their coat is very different to what you are trying to see on Ciro Brevnovska stopa.

That's is a really problem, but this problem not have appear as magic, that was made by bad selected litters, inbreedings in wrong dogs or too for accident made by the lack of knowledge about the genetic of one selected male.
So, we cannot forgoth this hipotesis, in show long coat ever atrack more the judges than the normal coat, so, who garante that these dogs not receive a special tratment for be with all this coat all year?

Originally Posted by Satu*

All sickness and genetic prolems not come inbreeding. Sometimes nature makes mistakes also.

Yes, nature and we cannot forgoth bad selection

Originally Posted by Satu*

I dont like popular sire breeding and its not good to make so many litters one male or female.

if the male or the female is good, I not see the problem to spread more the genetic of this dog, but of course not turn it a super-reproductor as we can see with Miky passo del Lupo or Cutt as exemple.

Originally Posted by Satu*

Or if litter have somethig problems we most tell all problems.
Not make repeat mating in this combination!

I respect that kind breeder how can tell all good and bad things from their owndogs.

So many breeders have "kennelblindness" they don´t see anything bad in their dogs.

Exactly, if all breeder tel the problems and the good things that happen in his selection, some wrong choices and some problem not will happen, but, is very little the percentage of breeder who do this, the most part have the preference to hide problems.
"Incredible that the problem only happen in the neighbour kennel's"

Originally Posted by Sato*

Everyone knows that every dogs is not for breeding.

If this dog fall inone honest breeder hands, he will be very well used as Pet only, but if fall in the hand of people who want money, they willnever put out of reproduction a bad dog, because is lost money with that.

Originally Posted by Satu*

We can read what kind combination has made and often can see many litters is inbreeded.

Inbreeding is not problem IF you know what you are doing.

But if you only make puppies (read money) its very big problem.

Outcross is not possible so little genetig population. We have lots of dogs but genetically they are few dogs.

We all have so many things to learn. We can know lot of things but there is allways somebody who know more.

That's the problem of the inbreeding in this breed, if is made the inbreeding, how will be possible a real outcrossing if all dogs have at least rep.zPS and others dogs in common sometimes in the most far generations?
Inbreeding isn't bad and isn't good if you can control and really open the line again if need sometime as you want, but that's is not really possible in little genetical breeds.
In one breed who already have a little genetic diversity, why down more it with inbreedings? too with the repetance of the same crosses sometime?
Who made it probably isn't well informed about the breed, or the breed for hin no matter.
Outcross is not possible but is possible up the genetic diversity of this breed made ever different crosses with different males as some breeders already do.