It anesthetizes for HD

[pedrocalle]

I have to do the X-ray photographies for HD and believe that it is necessary to use anesthesia. Does someone know if there are problems with certain anesthesias? Is it possible to use anyone?

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

You can do a totally normal anaesthesia, there are no specialities in the breed.

Ina

[Rona]

From what I was told by my vet, some csv are a bit "slower" than other dogs. It takes them longer to fall asleep and later to wake. So there is no need to give bigger doses, but just wait longer for the effect.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Our dogs needed quite high doses and woke up very soon but nothing really out of normal range.

Ina

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by Rona

From what I was told by my vet, some csv are a bit "slower" than other dogs. It takes them longer to fall asleep and later to wake. So there is no need to give bigger doses, but just wait longer for the effect.

Thanks

Hronec my male, needs full dose, but did neeeeeeewer fall a sleep but he was very lazy...
I anaesthesize him two times, it was the same thing time no two.

Rasty my female vent under very fast a very deeeeeep, but she was also up very fast after the antidope...

Hronec had a bit of a hangover, but Rasty was OK, just like normal...

Anyone having more experience of anaesthesizeing a CsV please tell

Very best regards / Mikael

[pedrocalle]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

You can do a totally normal anaesthesia, there are no specialities in the breed.

Ina

Thank you for your answers. I understand that it must go depending on the corporal weight of the dog, and as it happens to us costs mas and to others less. Is it like that?

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Sorry, but I didn´t understand your question. Normally you give the drugs depending on the bodyweight and what you need to do. For a x-ray you don´t need a very deep anaesthesia because you cause no pain and simply need the muscle relaxation.

Ina

[Gypsy Wolf]

Is full anesthesia required for HD films in your country?
Here in the US, you can anesthetize or not... personally, I prefer not... yes, there are some who feel it gives a less accurate reading (makes the hips look tighter than they are), but I get to go into the xray room and help hold my dog, relax them and make it a pleasant and less risky procedure.
Even without anesthesia, you can clearly see the depth of the acetabulum, shape of the femoral head, etc... the only thing that cannot be evaluated as clearly is laxity...

[GalomyOak]

I always tell my vet to use the same procedure they would for a greyhound/sighthound - another CSV breeder told me to do this early on, I don't know how much truth there is to it, but I think it makes my vet pay a little more attention for problems if nothing else. When I did PennHip (required anesthesia), the vet had a really hard time getting my female to go to sleep - both dogs tested had very quick recovery. She recently had a similar problem going to sleep when she had to have emergency surgery to put stitches in a wound. With greyhounds, they have some issues, I think because of little body fat (like many of our dogs, although probably not as much as a greyhound). There are certain types of medicine the vets will use, and others they will not for greyhounds...not sure of the names though. I have never had any serious problems.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by Lunas Mom

Is full anesthesia required for HD films in your country?
Here in the US, you can anesthetize or not... personally, I prefer not... yes, there are some who feel it gives a less accurate reading (makes the hips look tighter than they are), but I get to go into the xray room and help hold my dog, relax them and make it a pleasant and less risky procedure.
Even without anesthesia, you can clearly see the depth of the acetabulum, shape of the femoral head, etc... the only thing that cannot be evaluated as clearly is laxity...

In Germany you have to anesthestize the dog until full muscle relaxation because you can´t judge the Norberg degree properly in a fully awake dog. Especially in cases of severe HD that are painfull in full stretching. Spain as a member of the FCI should follow the same rule. And the German officials don´t judge pictures that are not properly positioned what is very difficult in a young lively dog. It is not unusual that the vet has to make more than one x-ray to get one good enough for official judgement.
Metedomidin is often used in combination with a little Ketamine and/or if necessary Propofol, because Metedomidin can be antagonized. As you need a Premedication for intubation that is already deep enough to do the x-rays that don´t take long Isofloran is not always used.

Ina

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by Lunas Mom

Is full anesthesia required for HD films in your country?
Here in the US, you can anesthetize or not... personally, I prefer not... yes, there are some who feel it gives a less accurate reading (makes the hips look tighter than they are), but I get to go into the xray room and help hold my dog, relax them and make it a pleasant and less risky procedure.
Even without anesthesia, you can clearly see the depth of the acetabulum, shape of the femoral head, etc... the only thing that cannot be evaluated as clearly is laxity...

I think it depends.. I'm almost 100% certain that PennHIP method requires anesthesia as the required scans ask the legs to be rotated to an uncomfortable position.