GALIBA CRYING WOLF colpevole ??

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I see there are many lies spoken - some people try to change the facts. So maybe it is good to clear it from the beggining.

The story about possible Saarloos blood by Crying Wolf was started by FRENCH breeder:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthr...lia#post380735

The disscusion was moved to English forum by elf:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18510

And the facts are:

In the litter of Thalia and Sibir Crying Wolf there were two red puppies born (liver coloured with red noses):

Here you can see Sibir with hir liver-coloured son.

The DNA was checked and the parents of the red puppies ARE Crying Wolf Thalia and Crying Wolf Sibir. So the red colour comes from the Crying Wolf kennel.

The French breeder tried to clear this story personally - she was interested to make the parentage test to check who are the parent of Sibir and Thalia. She was prepared to bring her own vet and pay for everything. Edith REFUSED.

Somebody told that there is/was a red Saarloos living by Crying Wolf. According to the information given by elf it is Dvorak de Louba Tar (http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...7&postcount=77).

Lorry (the French breeder of the red puppies) called Mr. Capiez (friend of Edith - owner of de la Louve blanche kennel) to warn him about the possiblity of Saarloos crosses by CW dogs (as he was also owned few of them). He answered that the male was neutered (http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...3&postcount=70).

It came out that it is not true - Mr. Capiez lied or someone lied to him - on the internet was published a litter sired by the red Saarloos living by Crying Wolf and also on the photos it is cleary visible that the male has testicles on the right place:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/attachm...5&d=1307398203


On other photos it is possible to see the red Saarloos playing with other Crying Wolf wolfdogs (here you can see also Sibir - who sired the red pups):


It is also easy to see the poor quality kennels - everybody who knows wolfdogs knows also that it is not a problem for them to break out of such cages easily.


The facts are:
- 2008 lupis started topic about strange masks by offsprings of Volos Crying Wolf - son (?) of Galiba
- 2009 in a litter of two Crying wolf dogs are red puppies born - to have a red puppy boith parents must be carriers of the red gene - Thalia and Sibir must have it.
- 2011 - the information about the red puppies was published by the breeder Lorry - MLS (http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18510) after it came out the the Edith - the Crying Wolf breeder do not want to clear the story and do not want to cooperate
- 2011 there is published a case of lilac puppies born out of another Crying Wolf - Galiba offspring (http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20855)


At the moment we have: strange "Saarloos" masks, red dogs and lilac puppies. All of them do not come by CsW - it is why it must be cleared.

There is no reason to write about any breeders fights - at the moment several Galiba-offspring owners try to blame other breeders instead of trying to find out what happend.

The story could be cleared very fast if the Crying Wolf breeder would be willing to cooperate - simple DNA test would solve the problems already some years ago. She didn't agree - what make this case much more suspicious.

The question is: is Galba the carrier of the red gene? If yes: where is comes from? Is Galiba the father of Thalia instead of Fallko?
If Galiba is not carrier of the red gene: who is the father of Thalia and Sibir?
Some breeders wrote that Galiba was sterile - he covered several females from different countries but the females stayed empty. Is it true? Since when was Galiba sterile? If since beggining - who is the father of the puppies?

There are many suggestions and many questions. We just must clear it and find out the truth.


Anyway it is not hard to see the huge similarity of the heavy head of S-Crying Wolf like Siegfrid:

and the red Saarloos:

for comparition head fo Galiba:


....and this worry a lot....