Hd - ed

[Juniorwolf]

In Denmark more and more breeders have started to give money back when owners make official HD and ED x-rays of their puppies
I really like this idea as more and more people will be encouraged to make x-rays of their dogs, which ofcourse is good for the induvidual dog/owner as he/her will know if the dog will be able do hard work/training without causing any damage to the dog or if he/her need to take extra consideration to the dogs well being, but it is also very good for the induvidual breed as monitoring the health of the breed becomes more easy and accurate and finally it is good for the induvidual breeder as he/her can monitor his/her own breeding results.

Maybe it is possible to take this one step further, by giving money back when puppies have official bonitation ? I know for one Danish breed called Broholmer, new owners have to sign a contract saying that they must make x-rays + Mental Health Test on the puppy and after x-rays and MH test they will get money back ...the amount of money giving back in Denmark is induvidual, but usually it is the same amount as the cost of HD/AD x-ray.

I wonder if breeders of our breed would think of doing the same ?
Please tell me your thoughts about this...

Greetings Rolf

[Vaiva]

Napisał rolf

In Denmark more and more breeders have started to give money back when owners make official HD and ED x-rays of their puppies
I really like this idea as more and more people will be encouraged to make x-rays of their dogs, which ofcourse is good for the induvidual dog/owner as he/her will know if the dog will be able do hard work/training without causing any damage to the dog or if he/her need to take extra consideration to the dogs well being, but it is also very good for the induvidual breed as monitoring the health of the breed becomes more easy and accurate and finally it is good for the induvidual breeder as he/her can monitor his/her own breeding results.

Giving money back (or part of the sum) is usual if the puppy, sold as SHOW becomes only PET Speaking about HD... well, this is a right attitude but still... Maybe a puppy didn't have proper conditions? Was overweihted? Not fed properly? Jumped a lot? We can sometimes see litters where all dogs have HD A and one has C or D...
But the idea of "paying" people for x-raying their dogs sounds interesting Isn't it better to sign an agreement when selling a puppy, that the owner will make HD before his dog is, lets say, 2 years old? If he doesn't, he pays, lets say, the club (or an animal shelter) every month, until he makes it

[Juniorwolf]

Napisał Vaiva

Giving money back (or part of the sum) is usual if the puppy, sold as SHOW becomes only PET Speaking about HD... well, this is a right attitude but still... Maybe a puppy didn't have proper conditions? Was overweihted? Not fed properly? Jumped a lot? We can sometimes see litters where all dogs have HD A and one has C or D...
But the idea of "paying" people for x-raying their dogs sounds interesting Isn't it better to sign an agreement when selling a puppy, that the owner will make HD before his dog is, lets say, 2 years old? If he doesn't, he pays, lets say, the club (or an animal shelter) every month, until he makes it

This idea with giving money back, is not about show, working or pet...
ofcourse if breeder sell a puppy which don`t live up to what it is sold as(show/working) the breeder should give some money back.
The idea is also not about proper conditions,overweight, correct food or jumping a lot, just as well as the idea have nothing to do with the results of HD/AD, the idea is ONLY to encourage the owners to make x-rays of the dog, does`nt matter the result.

If all dogs in a litter have HD A except one who have HD D, you will never know if the dog was born like this or if it is due to conditions of life(food, jumping,etc.), but if all puppies from the litter will have x-rays at least you will know the result of your breeding ...lets say litter of 8 puppies 5 puppies have HD A, 2 puppies have HD B and 1 puppy have HD D, this is still a good result, does`nt matter correct food, jumping, etc.

I don`t think it is better to let the owner pay later, because it could be problematic for the club or animal shelter to get the money, most contracts don`t have any value unless an attorney is involved and this would sometimes be expensive, what if owner sold the dog to another(for any reason) ? if owner not will be member of club, then what ? also I think it is more easy to encourage people to make x-rays, when they already did pay instead of claiming money later on

Greetings Rolf

[Mikael]

Napisał rolf

In Denmark more and more breeders have started to give money back when owners make official HD and ED x-rays of their puppies
I really like this idea as more and more people will be encouraged to make x-rays of their dogs, which ofcourse is good for the induvidual dog/owner as he/her will know if the dog will be able do hard work/training without causing any damage to the dog or if he/her need to take extra consideration to the dogs well being, but it is also very good for the induvidual breed as monitoring the health of the breed becomes more easy and accurate and finally it is good for the induvidual breeder as he/her can monitor his/her own breeding results.

Maybe it is possible to take this one step further, by giving money back when puppies have official bonitation ? I know for one Danish breed called Broholmer, new owners have to sign a contract saying that they must make x-rays + Mental Health Test on the puppy and after x-rays and MH test they will get money back ...the amount of money giving back in Denmark is induvidual, but usually it is the same amount as the cost of HD/AD x-ray.

I wonder if breeders of our breed would think of doing the same ?
Please tell me your thoughts about this...

Greetings Rolf

Thanks fore bringing this up Rolf

Yes some breeders in Sweden do like that to, the new owner pay for the HD X-ray when they pick up the pupp, and get the money back after the dog has done a official x-ray after 12-24 month (depending on breed)

I plan to do like this to in the future it is better than a contract, people always wont there money back


Best regads / Mikael

[Juniorwolf]

Napisał Mikael

Thanks fore bringing this up Rolf

Yes some breeders in Sweden do like that to, the new owner pay for the HD X-ray when they pick up the pupp, and get the money back after the dog has done a official x-ray after 12-24 month (depending on breed)

I plan to do like this to in the future it is better than a contract, people always wont there money back


Best regads / Mikael

I am happy to hear the idea is spreading to more breeders(or future breeders) as I think it is one of the best ideas regarding monitoring the health of a breed... another bonus could be that owners the breeder normaly will lose contact with (for many reasons) will have a good reason to keep contact to the breeder, at least until the x-rays is taken

Greetings Rolf

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

We do this since our last two litters. Too many owners signed the contract saying that they will x-ray the dog but didn´t do so. We will see if this system will work out better now.

Ina

[Juniorwolf]

Napisał michaelundinaeichhorn

We do this since our last two litters. Too many owners signed the contract saying that they will x-ray the dog but didn´t do so. We will see if this system will work out better now.

Ina

This is great the idea is more wide spread than I thought...
I hope it will be more effective when people pay in advance
keep up the good work

Greetings Rolf

[Mikael]

Napisał rolf

This is great the idea is more wide spread than I thought...
I hope it will be more effective when people pay in advance
keep up the good work

Greetings Rolf

Some breeders I did here let the new owner sign a contract that say they are not alowed to mix breed the dog to.

I think in Sweden a pure dog vill not be pure and lose the pedigee by Swedish kennel club roule if it is used in mixbreeding ? but it is not forbiden by law...but I think no one whit a pure CsV will take the risk ???

Is there anyone of the breeders here that do wright a contract like this before you sell your CsV puppys ???

Regards / Mikael