Acana Puppy Large breed

Priska182 · 11-26-2011, 05:12 AM

Hi everyone,

I'm planning to put my new CsV pup on Acana for Large breed puppy...

Did some of you have tried it? For how long? Did you and of course your dogs like it?

Thank you very much for your advice

michaelundinaeichhorn · 11-26-2011, 08:40 AM

We haven´t tried it because we decided to take Orijen what is sold by the same company here in Germany. Orijen is not much more expensive but contains more meat, the rest is almost the same. If this wouldn´t have been the case we would have decided for Arcana and I looked at a lot of dry dog foods before this decision.

mbubab · 11-26-2011, 11:20 AM

We take Orijen too

,I think that Orijen is better.

z Peronówki · 11-26-2011, 12:18 PM

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I'm planning to put my new CsV pup on Acana for Large breed puppy...

Did some of you have tried it? For how long? Did you and of course your dogs like it?

I do not use any food for puppies...

They are result of pure marketing of the dog food factories...

Do you think that wolves/wild dogs feed their pupps with different food till the puppies are one year old and change the food later....

Of course not....

I also do not buy any food with glucosamine and chondroitin - or better said I do not pay any attention if the food contains it or not. If you check the labels you will be that most of the dry food contains trace amounts of it. So I prefer (and I recommend) additinal suplementation. I have very good experiences with ARTHRIX Plus (http://www.arthrix.com/arthrix_plus.htm). Believe me - cetyl myristoleate makes miracles...
It is great also for dogs with dysplasia (I saw a bulldog who vets suggested to put down and who is still alive and RUNNING).

hanninadina · 11-26-2011, 01:57 PM

I tried both, but Orijen is better. The most important thing for the wolfdogs is to get high protein, high fat but no grain and low carbohydrats. That is what wolves in the wild get most. Of course they do not change the food after being adult. And that is what Orijen is all about. But here in germany we have a even better dry kibble food wolfsblut http://www.wolfsblut.com/ . With Oirjen my pups had sometimes soft poo. With Wolfsblut green valley http://www.wolfsblut.com/hundefutter...kenfutter.html , it contains lamb and salomon with 30 % protein an 18 % fat and more than 50 % meat and fish they do have normal hard poo and they do make poo not so often like with all other dry kibbles, only 2-3 times a day. So the body gets most of the food.

Christian

yukidomari · 11-26-2011, 04:22 PM

We fed Acana Provincial, the grain free line, years ago when we fed kibble. It wasn't the large breed puppy formulation, though, but my little dogs tolerated it better than Orijen.

My large dog (not csv) tolerated Orijen fine, though. I would say both are good choices in terms of kibble, although, since you're in Canada where Champion Pet Foods is based, I'd try Orijen first

tupacs2legs · 11-26-2011, 04:32 PM

hi... i too have used acana

(and orijen)

i also agree about the 'puppy food' marketing,it is just that, marketing

i think any grain free kibble suits,i feed grain free and raw,but the kibble i have found that suits my boy best is fish and potato

if u are feeding kibble i dont think u can go far wrong with any of the 'premium grain free brands'... id just use the adult tho

yukidomari · 11-26-2011, 04:42 PM

Just as a note though, some puppy foods and some adult foods do not have the appropriate levels of calcium and phosphorus for a puppy (even when it's labeled as puppy food). Adults and puppies eat the same food, but manufacturers don't pay as much attention to C/P levels in adult food since adult bones are no longer absorbing the levels of calcium as puppies do to grow.

In Orijen line up, the new Red Meats formulation is not appropriate for puppies, for example, in terms of C/P level, but all the other ones are. Taste of the Wild and Wellness Core, two other grain free foods also have inappropriate levels of C/P for a puppy, even though the food is labeled as All Life Stages. I'll post links to studies and papers later if you're interested after I'm at a PC.

raven · 11-26-2011, 04:50 PM

Please yukidomari post links to study beacuse I was thinking in buying Taste of the Wild for my puppy...so I will look for other option. Thanks in advance

Baz · 11-26-2011, 05:16 PM

I've used Orijen puppy large since my puppy was 7 weeks old, she's now nearly 8 months old & really healthy, I'm very happy with it (apart from the cost, here in Europe it costs cca 70 euro for 13.5kg, but I imagine it's much cheaper in Canada).

michaelundinaeichhorn · 11-26-2011, 04:41 PM

We had no problems at all with Orijen,
Wolfsblut food shows how important it is to have a very close look at the analysis and not to believe the manufacturer: If they follow German declaration law the list of ingediences has to follow the content in food. The part with the highest content has to come first, the one with the second highest second, etc. The third highest content in the lamb version is rice, there is one on the site with sweet potatoes at first place, very unusual feeding for wolves

Orijen now contains 80 % of animal sources and 20% vegetables and fruits.
If you take puppy or adult is not so important, but with adult you might get problems with Ca : P Balance with some brands. And high fat can be fatal with fast growing dogs. So with large puppy you are on the save side.

11-26-2011, 05:12 AM	#1
Priska182 Canadian Member Registrato dal: Jan 2008 ubicazione: Montréal Messaggi: 423	Acana Puppy Large breed Hi everyone, I'm planning to put my new CsV pup on Acana for Large breed puppy... Did some of you have tried it? For how long? Did you and of course your dogs like it? Thank you very much for your advice __________________ Stéphanie www.inugami.ca

11-26-2011, 11:20 AM	#3
mbubab Junior Member Registrato dal: Oct 2009 ubicazione: Blatenská pahorkatina Messaggi: 27	We take Orijen too,I think that Orijen is better.

11-26-2011, 05:16 PM	#10
Baz Junior Member Registrato dal: May 2011 ubicazione: Křivoklát Messaggi: 62	I've used Orijen puppy large since my puppy was 7 weeks old, she's now nearly 8 months old & really healthy, I'm very happy with it (apart from the cost, here in Europe it costs cca 70 euro for 13.5kg, but I imagine it's much cheaper in Canada). Ultima modifica di Baz : 11-27-2011 a 09:28 AM

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11-26-2011, 08:40 AM	#2
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Registrato dal: Sep 2003 ubicazione: Bad Dürkheim Messaggi: 2,249	We haven´t tried it because we decided to take Orijen what is sold by the same company here in Germany. Orijen is not much more expensive but contains more meat, the rest is almost the same. If this wouldn´t have been the case we would have decided for Arcana and I looked at a lot of dry dog foods before this decision.

11-26-2011, 01:57 PM	#5
hanninadina Senior Member Registrato dal: Nov 2003 Messaggi: 2,466	I tried both, but Orijen is better. The most important thing for the wolfdogs is to get high protein, high fat but no grain and low carbohydrats. That is what wolves in the wild get most. Of course they do not change the food after being adult. And that is what Orijen is all about. But here in germany we have a even better dry kibble food wolfsblut http://www.wolfsblut.com/ . With Oirjen my pups had sometimes soft poo. With Wolfsblut green valley http://www.wolfsblut.com/hundefutter...kenfutter.html , it contains lamb and salomon with 30 % protein an 18 % fat and more than 50 % meat and fish they do have normal hard poo and they do make poo not so often like with all other dry kibbles, only 2-3 times a day. So the body gets most of the food. Christian

11-26-2011, 04:22 PM	#6
yukidomari Moderator Registrato dal: Mar 2010 ubicazione: Los Angeles CA Messaggi: 847	We fed Acana Provincial, the grain free line, years ago when we fed kibble. It wasn't the large breed puppy formulation, though, but my little dogs tolerated it better than Orijen. My large dog (not csv) tolerated Orijen fine, though. I would say both are good choices in terms of kibble, although, since you're in Canada where Champion Pet Foods is based, I'd try Orijen first

11-26-2011, 04:32 PM	#7
tupacs2legs rookie Registrato dal: Apr 2009 ubicazione: london Messaggi: 320	hi... i too have used acana (and orijen) i also agree about the 'puppy food' marketing,it is just that, marketing i think any grain free kibble suits,i feed grain free and raw,but the kibble i have found that suits my boy best is fish and potato if u are feeding kibble i dont think u can go far wrong with any of the 'premium grain free brands'... id just use the adult tho

11-26-2011, 04:42 PM	#8
yukidomari Moderator Registrato dal: Mar 2010 ubicazione: Los Angeles CA Messaggi: 847	Just as a note though, some puppy foods and some adult foods do not have the appropriate levels of calcium and phosphorus for a puppy (even when it's labeled as puppy food). Adults and puppies eat the same food, but manufacturers don't pay as much attention to C/P levels in adult food since adult bones are no longer absorbing the levels of calcium as puppies do to grow. In Orijen line up, the new Red Meats formulation is not appropriate for puppies, for example, in terms of C/P level, but all the other ones are. Taste of the Wild and Wellness Core, two other grain free foods also have inappropriate levels of C/P for a puppy, even though the food is labeled as All Life Stages. I'll post links to studies and papers later if you're interested after I'm at a PC.

11-26-2011, 04:50 PM	#9
raven Junior Member Registrato dal: Sep 2011 Messaggi: 21	Please yukidomari post links to study beacuse I was thinking in buying Taste of the Wild for my puppy...so I will look for other option. Thanks in advance

11-26-2011, 04:41 PM	#11
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Registrato dal: Sep 2003 ubicazione: Bad Dürkheim Messaggi: 2,249	We had no problems at all with Orijen, Wolfsblut food shows how important it is to have a very close look at the analysis and not to believe the manufacturer: If they follow German declaration law the list of ingediences has to follow the content in food. The part with the highest content has to come first, the one with the second highest second, etc. The third highest content in the lamb version is rice, there is one on the site with sweet potatoes at first place, very unusual feeding for wolves Orijen now contains 80 % of animal sources and 20% vegetables and fruits. If you take puppy or adult is not so important, but with adult you might get problems with Ca : P Balance with some brands. And high fat can be fatal with fast growing dogs. So with large puppy you are on the save side.