poll , who wants to have a DM/DM dog?

jmvdwiel · 11-02-2013, 01:27

NO way I want to have a DM/DM dog when i buy a puppy.

saschia · 11-02-2013, 13:11

Why should anybody want to buy a DM/DM dog?

jmvdwiel · 11-02-2013, 13:56

that's a good question, but some people think it is strange that in Holland DM/DM dogs born after the validation of the test cannot be used for breeding anymore.
But there shouldn't be DM/DM dogs born anymore, and we had the clause that DM/DM dogs that were born before the validation could be used mated with a Free dog.

wolfin · 11-02-2013, 14:18

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Originally Posted by jmvdwiel

that's a good question, but some people think it is strange that in Holland DM/DM dogs born after the validation of the test cannot be used for breeding anymore.
But there shouldn't be DM/DM dogs born anymore, and we had the clause that DM/DM dogs that were born before the validation could be used mated with a Free dog.

total not strange. I speak - NOW not mas born, but this who are live and have about 4-8 years can go to breeding. this is diferent. I not want too puppys DM/DM like and you, but not think is good from breeding put out dogs who have a breedings rights and have this problem.

saschia · 11-02-2013, 14:47

The solution is easy - you don't want DM/DM dog, get a puppy from tested parents. But once you have (for whatever reason) DM/DM dog, why should you not be able to breed it, if it makes sense? That means if it is great exterior, great character dog with not common lineage, it is pity to say No breeding, no exceptions... like Daiva said - it was born already. Especially in countries where the number of animals is low - if you stop breeding from such animals altogether, you risk extreme inbreeding, or you have to import extensively.

Well, it is the thing of your club to decide on breeding conditions, but breeding with DM/DM dogs (with N/N partner) does not equal producing DM/DM offspring and it absolutely does not equal wanting a DM/DM dog. That's all. The breeder also has to calculate if he will be able to sell pups which all will be carries.

yukidomari · 11-02-2013, 22:39

maybe something like 'no breeding on DM/DM dogs born after 2011 (or whenever testing became popularized and 'standard')?

but i agree that sometimes there are DM/DM dogs which can have great value to a breed. and their offspring don't need to suffer from the same potential fate as long as educated decisions are made. And I agree with Sasha completely!

11-02-2013, 01:27	#1
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11-02-2013, 13:56	#3
jmvdwiel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,061	that's a good question, but some people think it is strange that in Holland DM/DM dogs born after the validation of the test cannot be used for breeding anymore. But there shouldn't be DM/DM dogs born anymore, and we had the clause that DM/DM dogs that were born before the validation could be used mated with a Free dog. __________________ Groetjes judith

11-02-2013, 14:47	#5
saschia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bratislava Posts: 936	The solution is easy - you don't want DM/DM dog, get a puppy from tested parents. But once you have (for whatever reason) DM/DM dog, why should you not be able to breed it, if it makes sense? That means if it is great exterior, great character dog with not common lineage, it is pity to say No breeding, no exceptions... like Daiva said - it was born already. Especially in countries where the number of animals is low - if you stop breeding from such animals altogether, you risk extreme inbreeding, or you have to import extensively. Well, it is the thing of your club to decide on breeding conditions, but breeding with DM/DM dogs (with N/N partner) does not equal producing DM/DM offspring and it absolutely does not equal wanting a DM/DM dog. That's all. The breeder also has to calculate if he will be able to sell pups which all will be carries. __________________ Saschia (Sasa Zahradnikova) http://www.chiens-loup-tchecoslovaqu...ei-et-damon.ws

11-02-2013, 22:39	#6
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	maybe something like 'no breeding on DM/DM dogs born after 2011 (or whenever testing became popularized and 'standard')? but i agree that sometimes there are DM/DM dogs which can have great value to a breed. and their offspring don't need to suffer from the same potential fate as long as educated decisions are made. And I agree with Sasha completely! __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/