Breeders in Canada

[Tina]

What about Canada? Are we allowed to import them?

[z Peronówki]

What about Canada? Are we allowed to import them?
Shawna

As far i know: yes. There is already one CzW from slovakian kennel....

Greetings,
Margo

[Tina]

As far i know: yes. There is already one CzW from slovakian kennel....

Do you know what part of Canada he is in? I would like to see one in person.
What about any near New York? I heard one is in California, but that is a
long way from here ;(

[Tina]

The other dogs are in Lafayette (IN), Blue Bell (PA). And our polish Fram is
in Chicago now....

Boy they are so far .. I will see if I can find Blue Bell and how far it is,
maybe I can get to visit that one. PA is from 3-12 hours from me, depending
on what part. Thankyou for posting

[evilraven]

I am looking for a male puppy under 10 weeks or so, to resie in the Niagara Region in Ontario Canada.

If anyone can help me out I would greatly appracaite it. Also, if you know a breeder in canada/us or you can import the puppy can you message me with the details.

Thank you for your time and considerations

[Huan]

Zitat von evilraven

Also, if you know a breeder in canada/us

Unfortunately there is not even one breeder of this breed in US or canada. So it's practically impossible to buy a puppy there. The only way to get a puppy is to import it from Europe.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Zitat von evilraven

/us or you can import the puppy can you message me with the details.

Hello,

This topic has been discussed several times over the years. The answers normally are allways the same. My opinion as a breeder is (and I know that most other breeders think the same way): Yes of course I would be willing to export a puppy to another country, it doesn´t really matter wich one. And yes of course I am willing to wellcome puppybuyers to our house answer all their questions, help them to find the right dog for them, help them to get in contact with other breeders I know in my ore other countries.
But am I willing to send a puppy all around the world to a person I don´t know at all? No I won´t do that. As Pavel wrote to the puppieprices good breeders invest a lot of time and money in their litters and dogs. Our dogs are family members, when we plan a litter it takes us very much work and costs to find the right male to breed our bitch to. To raise a litter means a terrible lot of work for weeks if you want to do it properly. We haven´t slept a night through for weeks now, because the first week the bitch needs to go out at night several times, sometimes the puppies cry and you have to have a look if everything is allright. Now in the last weeks the puppies still stay in the house most of the time because there are two meters of snow outside, they celebrate technoparties every night that last till the early hours in the morning and continue very early the next day. It too is everytime again very impressive what a total mess eight little creatures can make out of a big room in very few hours.
If you want to socialise them properly you have to take them out with you a lot, you have lots of people coming in and out of your house and, and, and.
Having gone through all of this you value a puppy quite high, not only in the economical point of view but in the emotional one too. We really want to be sure that the dog has a good home where it is happy and can stay the rest of it´s live. We don´t want it to be abused or sold several times or end up in a animal shelter or be just a number in a breeding kennel having as much litters as possible. That means we want to know the person it is sold to as good as possible before he gets a dog from us, you can´t do that on the phone and I don´t know anyone who knows you I can ask about you.

And I wouldn´t buy a dog for myself from a breeder that is willing to sell it to me just because I can afford to pay for it, without knowing anything about me.

From your point of view: You will have to go through some trouble to get a dog to your country and you have to pay a lot of money for it. You can´t just go to the breeder and give the dog back because it is ill or not properly socialised. You pay the same price for an exellent dog or for a horrible one and it is difficult to get advise if you have any problems. So it is in your interest too that you know the breeder you are buying of and you know some dogs and how they should bee and look like before you get yourself one. Maybee this breed isn´t the right breed for you, they are quite special and normally a pain in the neck several times the day the first two years of their life, they are very destructive, don´t like to stay alone, get bored very soon and manage to break out or in wherever they want.
So my advise for you would be to come to Europe first to find out more about the breed and find a good breeder for you. There will be a lot of enthusiastics helping you with that.
Please don´t understand me wrong of course you can buy and import a dog to your country and you will find that a lot of people will help you with it, including us. You normally just need the usual vaccinations, a veterinary control (maybe not even that) and a good company for the transfer. I just tried to say that dogs shouldn´t be a trading item to be delivered by plane.

Regards Ina

[Wolfsirius]

Excellent text, INA!
I have one CsV in Canada.
But, i just wanna tell one very good example from puppybuyer , as summer 2002 girl came by us from PANAMA and stay over two weeks. She bought a SPINONE - puppy from us. As she first time asked puppy, and i said, please, you are welcome here, i never believed she wil come, but, she came. And what we get in that, not only to meet new puppybuyer/puppybuyer meet breeder and dogs, but also unforgettable two weeks as two totally different culture meeted. I can say too, to get puppy on your own, it's worth of it !!!

-Suski, Finland

[evilraven]

Thanks for the info. I have owned many animals from race horses to fish...lol We have had many dogs and since I discovered and learned about this breed about 3 years ago, I finally have the room and time to take care for one since I have moved from my family farm in the country.

I fully understand what it is like to take care of animals, the time commitment, finances,vets, etc. However it is hard to find this particular breed anywhere around here. I don't like importing my dog without seeing him/her in person, their mother and father, its enviroment, and their human counterparts; As alot can be said about the dog by the human owners. That is why I posted, in hopes of finding someone in Canada or the US that had one that they would consider selling, that way I would meet the owners, see their and the dogs enviroment, other pets, and the gen. condition of the stud/bitch, etc.

I am heading to Europe in May with my family for a month, however I have to be back in two weeks for work, so if I can't find one here (Can./US) I would be abble to find one for sure in Europe.

I will be in Serbia (Former Yugoslavia) and in Switzerland and possibly Paris (Busness).

As for your post INA, I completly understand what your saying, and if I was a breeder of a CSW or any other animal I wouldn't import a dog without seeing the perspective buyers. I encourage every person who wants any sort of animal to completly understand whats involed and they should all visit the breeder and get to know one another.

Thanks for all your posts, I welcome anymore that you may have, and Wolfsirius could you give me some more info about your pup?

Thanks for all your time, thoughts, and considerations

PEACE

[mijke]

Hi you all,

Today I did read in the dutch CsW club magazine that Doere Yvar van de Kilstroom ( a dutch CsW) since a year is living in Canada.

Wich of you know, if there are more CsW's on this moment living in Canada?

Greetings,
Mijke

[Pavel]

Last year arrived in Canada Monkey od Uhoste. Thats all, what I know.

Pavel

[Huan]

There are also two CzWs from Wolfsirius kennel: Shetan Hawkeye Wolfsirius and Winter Magic Wolfsirius. We also got information that at least one dog from Slovakia is there too - unfortunately we don't now exactly which one it is.

[Chucky]

It's been a while since I found somewhere, that there are just a few CWs in Canada. Please, I am here in Canada... and I miss my wolf SO MUCH! I need to see a wolfdog! Could someone in B.C. let me know, if I could go with them to see the dog-training on weekend or something like that?
Thank you very very much.

Karel (chucky-at-wolfdog.cz)

[wolfangel]

Update on Canadian & US breeders (October 2007)

Actually, no breeder exists in USA.
But since 2004, one breeder is in QC, Canada.

There is one neutered male living in Laval, QC that came from Ces.Republic.

In Wolfen kennel (QC), two females were imported from Finland. One was bred to the imported male (prior he was neutered) and the two female puppies were kept by the breeder (Wolfen kennel). One male unfortunately died from a bloat (gastric tortion). The other male was sold in co-ownership in USA as a pet and was neutered.

People needs to undertsand that prior to bred other litter, Wolfen kennel decided to obtain full recognition of the breed.
The recognition process offered by the Canadian Kennel Club (CKC) was long and complicated. Also as many FCI members know, there still are some political aspects between FCI and CKC.... so Wolfen kennel contacted the Canine Federation of Canada (CFC) to obtain full recognition of the breed. This should be done by 2008.

CFC offers us official pedigrees that will be accepted by the FCI.
It is the FCI standard that will be recognized.

In Canada we don't have bonitation quotes.... because this not exist here.
But when a dog obtain a CACS, this meens the judge gave him a quote of EXCELLENT. The dog's conformation to the standard is not just good but excellent!

Wolfen kennel showed for the very first time Wolfsirius Shetan Hawkeye in the CFC dog show held in Laval, QC last October 6th and 7th. It was the very first time a CSV competed in conformation show in North America.
CFC shows are held under FCI rules and the judges are all FCI officials ones.

Shetan is the very first CSV to obtained her three CACS to have her champion title under three different judges.
Wolfen kennel is now proud to say that Shetan is the very first Canadian Champion.

Wolfen kennel breeder is my husband. His English is very limited so it is why I personnaly joined the forum and update some facts about the breed statue and the breeding ethic of Wolfen.

To bred a litter, Wolfen used ONLY hips+elbows clear dogs and the dogs are also CERF examinated (eye examination). It is true that the neutered male used at first was not xrayed.... it should be but we learned at the end he was not.
Shetan is clear of all.
Wolfen's other Finnish import and Shetan's two dauthers will be tested in 2008.
There is no rush since we don't have a stud on the Eastern coast of Canada-USA available and a litter is not planned before end 2008.

Wolfen kennel should go in Europe to bred or import an adult proven stud.

Without serious inquiries, this meens people making official reservations, the breeder can't go ahead and bred a female just to have puppies.....
It is not an ethical way of breeding to do that in North America.

Wolfen don't use news papers or pet shops to sell his puppies.
All puppies are sold (pet & show prospect) ONLY under co-ownership agreement.
This is to protect the breed against puppy mills and resellers.... specially with the popularity of hybrids in North America. Too many people are attracted by hybrid because of the wolf inside... but rare are people that keep them for years. Most people just drop there or put them down...
Wolfen is ethic enough to care about his puppies and want only the very best for them.

If some people heard the opposite, believe me.... these words were untrue.

All Wolfen's dogs are social with people and kids. They are raw fed and holistically raised. Puppies born inside the kitchen among the family. Wolfen never had and will never have kennel puppies.
As professionnal in behaviour, a lot of time and work is invested in a structured socialization program.

For questions or to contact Wolfen kennel, please send an email to [email protected] Only serious inquiries please.
If you are not ready to wait few months for the perfect companion puppy, Wolfen kennel will have no pup for you.
Breeding are made only when having official reservations.
Visitors are always welcome by appointment (we all work )

[Hanka]

Hi, one my puppy is in the Canada (Monkey od Uhoste). With transport was not problem. Monkey was in the cabine, in the box (and on the seat ) ). One breeder in the Canada has the puppies from Monkey. But Monkey has not DKK result. (X- ray). It is bad. Buy puppy from Czech republic, from very good parents with bonitation, with X-ray result and not shy parents. Hanka

[Hanka]

I think, in the Canada is not breeder, but there is owner ," which have puppies". The parents have not bonitation, they have not X-ray result (HIP Dysplasia). It is not good start of "new breed" in the new state.

[Nebulosa]

Zitat von Hanka

I think, in the Canada is not breeder, but there is owner ," which have puppies". The parents have not bonitation, they have not X-ray result (HIP Dysplasia). It is not good start of "new breed" in the new state.

It is therefore that I keep this breed in "secret" for the America-Latin, is very good that it does not have none another interested Brazilian, I only go to say of the existence of it when I to bring ane female and to register in the CBKC, because thus I obtain to control the breed here.

Who brings the race here is that said which examinations the animal has that to make and other things more.

I particularly find that independent of who he goes to buy the animal, it will be for Pet it have that to be castrated (neutered).

This prevents that it occurs what it happened in Canada, hatches without control of genetic illnesses, made for the simple reason to have the chance to see the "miracle of the life"


Of all the exames/lauds that the necessary CzW, I do not only know where to get the Bonitation in Brazil.

[Koos]

Hello,

Hanna wrote, that is not good to start with a new breed without a dog that had no Bonitation, No x Ray and possibly no Show results

I think, that if you will buy a puppy, it is very hard to do a Bonitation in Brasil, like as you wrote. Therefore you have to come over to Czeck Republique or to Slowakia and maybe to Germany.

If you will buy an adult dog, maybe it will be interesting to that dog has done a Bonitation.

But even in Holland there is no Bonitation and therefore we go the the countries of origine.

But the most important point is, I think, that the dog (puppy) is healthy and that you can do some course (obedience, tracking, defence) if you like.

When there are coming more CW's in Brazil, you can start a club but Brazil is also sooooo big, so I wonder if people will meet eachother. Maybe in a certain surrounding. And then you can start with some rules.

By the way, that breeder in Canada, has he puppy's from real CW's or is it a mix????

greetings,

Letty

[Nebulosa]

Zitat von KoosLetydeGraaff

Hello,

Hanna wrote, that is not good to start with a new breed without a dog that had no Bonitation, No x Ray and possibly no Show results

I think, that if you will buy a puppy, it is very hard to do a Bonitation in Brasil, like as you wrote. Therefore you have to come over to Czeck Republique or to Slowakia and maybe to Germany.

If you will buy an adult dog, maybe it will be interesting to that dog has done a Bonitation.

But even in Holland there is no Bonitation and therefore we go the the countries of origine.

But the most important point is, I think, that the dog (puppy) is healthy and that you can do some course (obedience, tracking, defence) if you like.

When there are coming more CW's in Brazil, you can start a club but Brazil is also sooooo big, so I wonder if people will meet eachother. Maybe in a certain surrounding. And then you can start with some rules.

By the way, that breeder in Canada, has he puppy's from real CW's or is it a mix????

greetings,

Letty

For I obtained the Bonitation, would be, in mine in case that, I could bring for Brazil a specialized judge in the breed to give this Bonitation to the dogs that are in Brazil?

The size of Brazil is not problem, in the Shepherds German occurs something in similar, specialized club in the breed has only 1 , and this valley for all Brazil, is alone to catch some days of trip.

I never thought about opening a club of the breed, exactly because I do not imagine what is necessary to make this (but I go to inquire on this), what more he happens here is that, when the breeder who brings the breed gives to the example, and the other follows.

A Club would be really a solution, would be a simpler skill to compel future breeders to make the examinations necessary to keep the quality of the breed.

[Koos]

OK

I agree with you, but you can only make rules if there are enough dog in Brazil.

At this moment, there is a similar discussion on the German Site over to make some rules, to do some exams and Bonitation and so on.

But the most important thing is, to get enough dog in Brazil to make a start with a club, then to ban the story of little red riding hood and to have some nice and friendly dog and some breeders who take care of the dogs and the line of breeding, and have enough knowlidge and experience with the race, because it is not a normal race and you cannot say - it is like a German Shepherd, only different.

Letty