breeding dogs with no breeding right

[lupis]

me and my friends have serious question about litters. last year they want to use one very nice slovak male for they female. they asked breeder and he write not possible because dog have no bonitation and is not for breeding. but same month they see litter with same male on wolfdog. litter was in germany in zlata palz. now i see same breeder from slovakia breed another dog with no bonitation and dog has litter in hungary in crying wolf.
Hanka write on forum in czech and slovakia you need for breeding bonitation and HD. so why slovak breeder breed dogs with no bonitation. if dog is not for breeding how german and hungary breeder register litter of such dog. it is normal or we find fraud?

[Hanka]

Originally Posted by lupis

me and my friends have serious question about litters. last year they want to use one very nice slovak male for they female. they asked breeder and he write not possible because dog have no bonitation and is not for breeding. but same month they see litter with same male on wolfdog. litter was in germany in zlata palz. now i see same breeder from slovakia breed another dog with no bonitation and dog has litter in hungary in crying wolf.
Hanka write on forum in czech and slovakia you need for breeding bonitation and HD. so why slovak breeder breed dogs with no bonitation. if dog is not for breeding how german and hungary breeder register litter of such dog. it is normal or we find fraud?

Yes, I wrote. I don´t know how it is possible in Slovakia. Is it possible- this male have bonitation already? If no, try ask slovakian club. In Czech republic this is not possible.

[saschia]

In Slovakia, the Slovak parents have to be bonitated. If I use stud dog from abroad, it has to be OK'd by the head of the breeding committee, I am not sure if bonitation is required.

But I think we cannot in any way prevent unbonitated dog from being bred in countries where it is not required. So stud dog can be used by breeders form other countries, even if it does not have all requirements for breeding in Slovakia.

[Hanka]

Originally Posted by saschia

In Slovakia, the Slovak parents have to be bonitated. If I use stud dog from abroad, it has to be OK'd by the head of the breeding committee, I am not sure if bonitation is required.

But I think we cannot in any way prevent unbonitated dog from being bred in countries where it is not required. So stud dog can be used by breeders form other countries, even if it does not have all requirements for breeding in Slovakia.

Hello sascjia, so is it so much different between my and your country? I am surprised....

[Hanka]

Saschia . sorry

[saschia]

Hanka, I don't exactly remember the rules, because the dog I selected was bonitated, but with Ob, which would make dog in Slovakia P14 (although I don't think the Ob for the stud is exact, it is after all dog raised in Germany where they have very different way to keep dogs). I think we can use a stud which passed all things required for breeding in country where he is registered, but as I said, I am not 100% sure.

But can you forbid your owner to use his dog as stud for pure-blood breeding in other country? I don't think so...

But I am not sure which dog Lupis ment, because all dogs which are fathers of Zlata Palz litters and belong to Slovak owners are bonitated and used for breeding in Slovakia too and more than a year already.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

We used Baron Spod Dumbiera before he got the adult Bonitation and we used Enor Maly Bysterez and Gryz Spod Dumbiera without. All have been to young then but both have been x-rayed. Baron and Enor did the bonitation some month later. The reason was that we know bonitation very well and we know the dogs very well from many occasions and have experience enough to see the charakter, so we knew they would pass. We don´t need bonitation in Germany though we made it with our own dogs.
But the main reason was that we are always looking for good new studs and there weren´t any better ones available at that time.

Ina