Did I translate correctly (to Czech)?

draggar · 09-09-2010, 05:03 PM

I took a stab at it using some online tools and I ended up with:

Vlkhrad

Anyone who speaks Czech know if I did it correctly? (Re-translate into English to take a guess!).

Hanka · 09-09-2010, 05:21 PM

Vlkhrad is noncens. You wrote wolfcastle. It is nothing in czech language. If you mean castle where are wolves or castle of wolves (wolves are owners of castle

), you must write "vlčí hrad". It is two words.

draggar · 09-09-2010, 05:27 PM

I meant it as the name of the place, "Wolf's Castle" (like a town name) and the international characters aren't accepted.

Hanka · 09-09-2010, 05:29 PM

So I wrote it right: Vlčí hrad

draggar · 09-09-2010, 05:31 PM

It took the accented i but not the c character (I can't even find it on my ASCII chart - copy and paste won't work, that character disappears). So I ended up with:

Vlcí hrad

Sorry us Americans are butchering your language.

Edit: I think this is a language I may want to learn some of, it looks like I could get some good (and very secure) passwords from it!

Maybe I'll get the package listed on here:

http://www.amazon.com/EuroTalk-Inter.../dp/B00117P3W6

(The software and book listed about 1/3 the way down - I'll skip out on the map since I'm not planning on going to Prague anytime soon!).

Hanka · 09-09-2010, 05:39 PM

To learn it???Hmmm. The foreigners tell, it is very dificult language like chinesse language

.

draggar · 09-09-2010, 05:53 PM

They say that about English, too (but we have all these rules, exceptions to the rules, and even exceptions to the exceptions, take the word weird for example).

I have seen some vlcak paperwork so I'm under the impression the language doesn't like vowels too much?

BTW - what is the Czech language based on? It doesn't seem Latin based like Spanish, French, and Italian and it doesn't seem Germanic based like German and English.

Maybe Russian based, or a combination of languages (like Creole)?

Hanka · 09-09-2010, 06:50 PM

Czech language is west slavic language, most related to slovakian, poland and srbian language. Czech language is in group of slavic languages, indo- european. It beginned in cca 10. century.
hi hi, sorry about my explanation in english, my english is bad....But I hope you understand something...

draggar · 09-09-2010, 07:11 PM

Your English is better than some of the native-English speakers I deal with on a daily basis.

Thank you for the explination. So it seems like a language that is based in (and from) eastern Europe?

I would like to go there someday, maybe if my wife and I can afford Fred Lanting's sieger tour we could convince him to make a stop in the Czech Republic (the country has a fascinating histoy, especially late 20th century, too).

Hanka · 09-09-2010, 07:25 PM

Yes, eastern Europe. When I travel to Slovakia, I understand everything. When I travel to Russian and Poland, I understand, but not all. When I travel to Croatia, Serbian, I understand only a little.
When you will travel to czech, visit me

draggar · 09-09-2010, 07:33 PM

I'm sure if we go my wife will want to meet some vlcak breeders (especially ones where our Luna is descendant from). When my wife went to Belgum to import a GSD she made sure she got to meet our GSD's (Kiri) breeder.

Maybe we can convince Fred to take an extra trip to the Czech Republic with us when we can afford to go there. Since we got into the breed he's been interested in it and we've asked him if he'd like to be a judge for our breed (since he's all breed certified in UKC).

I think he's doing his Sieger tour now (or maybe just a month long trip to Europe?) so it may be a couple of years before we can afford it.

As for the languages - it's the same with Spanish (which I know some). Listening is hard to understand but if I'm reading French or Italian I can get a basic understanding of what I'm reading.

Grin · 09-10-2010, 08:12 AM

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They say that about English, too

Really?

I was always told that English was the easiest language to learn for foreigners.

And I think it may by true comparing it with e.g. Polish or Russian.
(I live in Poland and Polish is my native language).

09-10-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originariamente inviata da Grin

Really?

I was always told that English was the easiest language to learn for foreigners.

And I think it may by true comparing it with e.g. Polish or Russian.
(I live in Poland and Polish is my native language).

I think it's probably all relative to your first language. I'd guess English would be easy in comparison to Polish (a good portion of my family are Polish immigrants, and they've all picked up on the language quickly and easily) but it would probably be difficult for someone who speaks a more "logical" language like Spanish.

rivals · 09-10-2010, 05:47 PM

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I think it's probably all relative to your first language. I'd guess English would be easy in comparison to Polish (a good portion of my family are Polish immigrants, and they've all picked up on the language quickly and easily) but it would probably be difficult for someone who speaks a more "logical" language like Spanish.

That's actually what I've heard, is that it definitely depends on your native language and the complexity and rules of that language. I've always wants to learn another (or maybe multiple) language(s) but all I know other than English is Spanish thanks to high school.

yukidomari · 09-10-2010, 07:00 PM

Grammatically, Chinese is extremely easy, with syntax very reminiscent of English, surprisingly. But it's the memorization of the character based system that is the most difficult, even to native speakers. And for foreigners the sounds can be difficult too.

Japanese imho from knowing both natively is more difficult because of its mixed historical background and need for conjugation..which doesn't exist in chinese. But the pronunciation is much easier.

draggar · 09-10-2010, 07:01 PM

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But it's the memorization of the character based system that is the most difficult, even to native speakers.

Isn't that what the "international alphabet" is for?

yukidomari · 09-10-2010, 07:08 PM

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Isn't that what the "international alphabet" is for?

I wouldn't know...when I see romanized Chinese, 90% of the time I can't understand it...

gotta understand that Chinese is made up of single syllable words..so yes, there's about a million meanings to any single sound..only through context and character differences so you know which it means..

draggar · 09-10-2010, 07:29 PM

You mean like there, their, and they're?

Two, to, and too?

Bow, bow, and bow?

yukidomari · 09-10-2010, 07:45 PM

[quote=draggar;323366]You mean like there, their, and they're?

Two, to, and too?

Bow, bow, and bow?

Yes, exactly!!

Rona · 09-10-2010, 08:33 PM

In the past I used to teach both Polish and English to foreigners of many nationalities. I may assure you that English is much easier to be learnt for communicative purposes than any Slavic language

Finnish/Hungarian/Estonian seem to be more difficult as far a grammar is concerned, Russian/Bulgarian/Greek - for a different (Cyrillic) alphabet.

Maybe Nebulosa should act expert?

Her English and Polish have improved significantly over the last couple of years.

09-09-2010, 05:03 PM	#1
draggar Junior Member Registrato dal: Feb 2010 ubicazione: New Hampshire Messaggi: 370	Did I translate correctly (to Czech)?(Has gone OT but I don't mind) I took a stab at it using some online tools and I ended up with: Vlkhrad Anyone who speaks Czech know if I did it correctly? (Re-translate into English to take a guess!). __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors Ultima modifica di draggar : 09-09-2010 a 07:12 PM

09-09-2010, 05:27 PM	#3
draggar Junior Member Registrato dal: Feb 2010 ubicazione: New Hampshire Messaggi: 370	I meant it as the name of the place, "Wolf's Castle" (like a town name) and the international characters aren't accepted. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

09-09-2010, 05:31 PM	#5
draggar Junior Member Registrato dal: Feb 2010 ubicazione: New Hampshire Messaggi: 370	It took the accented i but not the c character (I can't even find it on my ASCII chart - copy and paste won't work, that character disappears). So I ended up with: Vlcí hrad Sorry us Americans are butchering your language. Edit: I think this is a language I may want to learn some of, it looks like I could get some good (and very secure) passwords from it! Maybe I'll get the package listed on here: http://www.amazon.com/EuroTalk-Inter.../dp/B00117P3W6 (The software and book listed about 1/3 the way down - I'll skip out on the map since I'm not planning on going to Prague anytime soon!). __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors Ultima modifica di draggar : 09-09-2010 a 05:38 PM

09-09-2010, 05:53 PM	#7
draggar Junior Member Registrato dal: Feb 2010 ubicazione: New Hampshire Messaggi: 370	They say that about English, too (but we have all these rules, exceptions to the rules, and even exceptions to the exceptions, take the word weird for example). I have seen some vlcak paperwork so I'm under the impression the language doesn't like vowels too much? BTW - what is the Czech language based on? It doesn't seem Latin based like Spanish, French, and Italian and it doesn't seem Germanic based like German and English. Maybe Russian based, or a combination of languages (like Creole)? __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors Ultima modifica di draggar : 09-09-2010 a 05:56 PM

09-09-2010, 07:11 PM	#9
draggar Junior Member Registrato dal: Feb 2010 ubicazione: New Hampshire Messaggi: 370	Your English is better than some of the native-English speakers I deal with on a daily basis. Thank you for the explination. So it seems like a language that is based in (and from) eastern Europe? I would like to go there someday, maybe if my wife and I can afford Fred Lanting's sieger tour we could convince him to make a stop in the Czech Republic (the country has a fascinating histoy, especially late 20th century, too). __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

09-09-2010, 05:21 PM	#2
Hanka Senior Member Registrato dal: Nov 2003 ubicazione: Kadaň Messaggi: 1,622	Vlkhrad is noncens. You wrote wolfcastle. It is nothing in czech language. If you mean castle where are wolves or castle of wolves (wolves are owners of castle ), you must write "vlčí hrad". It is two words.

09-09-2010, 05:29 PM	#4
Hanka Senior Member Registrato dal: Nov 2003 ubicazione: Kadaň Messaggi: 1,622	So I wrote it right: Vlčí hrad

09-09-2010, 05:39 PM	#6
Hanka Senior Member Registrato dal: Nov 2003 ubicazione: Kadaň Messaggi: 1,622	To learn it???Hmmm. The foreigners tell, it is very dificult language like chinesse language .

09-09-2010, 06:50 PM	#8
Hanka Senior Member Registrato dal: Nov 2003 ubicazione: Kadaň Messaggi: 1,622	Czech language is west slavic language, most related to slovakian, poland and srbian language. Czech language is in group of slavic languages, indo- european. It beginned in cca 10. century. hi hi, sorry about my explanation in english, my english is bad....But I hope you understand something...

09-09-2010, 07:25 PM	#10
Hanka Senior Member Registrato dal: Nov 2003 ubicazione: Kadaň Messaggi: 1,622	Yes, eastern Europe. When I travel to Slovakia, I understand everything. When I travel to Russian and Poland, I understand, but not all. When I travel to Croatia, Serbian, I understand only a little. When you will travel to czech, visit me

09-09-2010, 07:33 PM	#11
draggar Junior Member Registrato dal: Feb 2010 ubicazione: New Hampshire Messaggi: 370	I'm sure if we go my wife will want to meet some vlcak breeders (especially ones where our Luna is descendant from). When my wife went to Belgum to import a GSD she made sure she got to meet our GSD's (Kiri) breeder. Maybe we can convince Fred to take an extra trip to the Czech Republic with us when we can afford to go there. Since we got into the breed he's been interested in it and we've asked him if he'd like to be a judge for our breed (since he's all breed certified in UKC). I think he's doing his Sieger tour now (or maybe just a month long trip to Europe?) so it may be a couple of years before we can afford it. As for the languages - it's the same with Spanish (which I know some). Listening is hard to understand but if I'm reading French or Italian I can get a basic understanding of what I'm reading. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors Ultima modifica di draggar : 09-09-2010 a 07:41 PM

09-10-2010, 07:00 PM	#15
yukidomari Moderator Registrato dal: Mar 2010 ubicazione: Los Angeles CA Messaggi: 847	Grammatically, Chinese is extremely easy, with syntax very reminiscent of English, surprisingly. But it's the memorization of the character based system that is the most difficult, even to native speakers. And for foreigners the sounds can be difficult too. Japanese imho from knowing both natively is more difficult because of its mixed historical background and need for conjugation..which doesn't exist in chinese. But the pronunciation is much easier.

09-10-2010, 07:29 PM	#18
draggar Junior Member Registrato dal: Feb 2010 ubicazione: New Hampshire Messaggi: 370	You mean like there, their, and they're? Two, to, and too? Bow, bow, and bow? __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

09-10-2010, 07:45 PM	#19
yukidomari Moderator Registrato dal: Mar 2010 ubicazione: Los Angeles CA Messaggi: 847	[quote=draggar;323366]You mean like there, their, and they're? Two, to, and too? Bow, bow, and bow? Yes, exactly!!

09-10-2010, 08:33 PM	#20
Rona Distinguished Member Registrato dal: Aug 2004 ubicazione: Kraków Messaggi: 3,509	In the past I used to teach both Polish and English to foreigners of many nationalities. I may assure you that English is much easier to be learnt for communicative purposes than any Slavic language Finnish/Hungarian/Estonian seem to be more difficult as far a grammar is concerned, Russian/Bulgarian/Greek - for a different (Cyrillic) alphabet. Maybe Nebulosa should act expert? Her English and Polish have improved significantly over the last couple of years. __________________