CzW ownership in UK

belgshep · 06-09-2008, 20:21

I have rejoined the forum having been off it for 3 years,many of you would have known me as masairotts,been living on a farm with no access to the net in remote Wales but now I am back and ready to start fighting again.
Regards to everyone
Paul

Mikael · 06-09-2008, 21:44

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Originally Posted by belgshep

I have rejoined the forum having been off it for 3 years,many of you would have known me as masairotts,been living on a farm with no access to the net in remote Wales but now I am back and ready to start fighting again.
Regards to everyone
Paul

Fight the government in England i hope you mean

welcome back / Mikael

Nebulosa · 06-09-2008, 22:00

CzW its a breed wich recently start on UK and already have huge problems, I think that if you want fight against the govern rules you need first fight against dog farmers wich uses CzW and SHW for make mixes and add wolfblood at Northen Inuit and Utonagan dogs probably seing more wolfish appearence.
For you try to change the rules against breeding of wolfdogs on uk, first you need make govern people be sure that UK people are able to have and breeding wolfdogs properly.
After some things I read here and other foruns about dogs on UK, I really believe that now, seems that UK people arent prepare to make it and DEFRA is completly right.

Angelika · 06-09-2008, 22:39

I absolutely agree with Paula.

Seems your prognosis of 2004 "without doubt there will be those who would use the CsW to introduce wolf genetics into other breeds, if it has not already been done" became true, Paul.

Anyhow welcome back

belgshep · 07-09-2008, 10:14

Thanks for your comments,yes I am aware of what has been going on and yes there is a lot of comment on the mixing of czechs with another breed,sadly this has gone on with breeders or farmers for a long time with many breeds and is something I have brought up with defra.
If we had been able to legally have czechs the problem would not have happened but when a breeder has paid several thousand pounds for dogs they want it back and have little reagrd for the damage they can do or consideration for the dogs,its a sad world.
Paul

michaelundinaeichhorn · 07-09-2008, 10:58

Then they are no breeders.

Ina

belgshep · 07-09-2008, 13:51

Sadly there are always those peeople who will look at profit before what is best for the breed and I am also aware of working breeders mixing with GSDs in and attempt to put right the mess that they are in,in europe I should add.,
Thankfully I have never been involved in breeding,prefering to buy my working dogs from those who understand how to breed correctly.
My interest in the czech goes back to the early 70s when I was in contact with an ex czech border guard who havd been involved with them from the late 50s and it was their tracking ability that interested me most.
Paul

06-09-2008, 20:21	#1
belgshep Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 26	UK Wolfdogs I have rejoined the forum having been off it for 3 years,many of you would have known me as masairotts,been living on a farm with no access to the net in remote Wales but now I am back and ready to start fighting again. Regards to everyone Paul

06-09-2008, 22:00	#3
Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 1,334	CzW its a breed wich recently start on UK and already have huge problems, I think that if you want fight against the govern rules you need first fight against dog farmers wich uses CzW and SHW for make mixes and add wolfblood at Northen Inuit and Utonagan dogs probably seing more wolfish appearence. For you try to change the rules against breeding of wolfdogs on uk, first you need make govern people be sure that UK people are able to have and breeding wolfdogs properly. After some things I read here and other foruns about dogs on UK, I really believe that now, seems that UK people arent prepare to make it and DEFRA is completly right. __________________

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06-09-2008, 22:39	#4
Angelika Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 847	I absolutely agree with Paula. Seems your prognosis of 2004 "without doubt there will be those who would use the CsW to introduce wolf genetics into other breeds, if it has not already been done" became true, Paul. Anyhow welcome back

07-09-2008, 10:14	#5
belgshep Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 26	Thanks for your comments,yes I am aware of what has been going on and yes there is a lot of comment on the mixing of czechs with another breed,sadly this has gone on with breeders or farmers for a long time with many breeds and is something I have brought up with defra. If we had been able to legally have czechs the problem would not have happened but when a breeder has paid several thousand pounds for dogs they want it back and have little reagrd for the damage they can do or consideration for the dogs,its a sad world. Paul

07-09-2008, 10:58	#6
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Then they are no breeders. Ina

07-09-2008, 13:51	#7
belgshep Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 26	Sadly there are always those peeople who will look at profit before what is best for the breed and I am also aware of working breeders mixing with GSDs in and attempt to put right the mess that they are in,in europe I should add., Thankfully I have never been involved in breeding,prefering to buy my working dogs from those who understand how to breed correctly. My interest in the czech goes back to the early 70s when I was in contact with an ex czech border guard who havd been involved with them from the late 50s and it was their tracking ability that interested me most. Paul