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[Mikael]

Originally Posted by rolf

Scandinavian gomerments is maybe the worst when it comes to wolves, in Sweden all wolves(about 10-13 wolves) are from same line and can therefor only make inbreeding in the future and the Swedish goverment do not allow new blood to enter sweden because of their strict rules of vaccination, so in time this population will die.... surly !

In Norway they still kill wolves, even that they have a small population(less than , so in time this will cause inbreeding too and the population will die.... surly !

In Denmark our ancestors killed all predatory animals bigger than foxes many years ago..... now foxes is being killed in big numbers too.

Sheeps and other prey for the wolves can easily be protected with various breeds of dogs.... there is NO excuse for killing wolves in Scandinavia !!!

Sorry but I don`t know much about wolves in Finland ?

Rolf

In Sweden there are about 200 wolves and 15 litter was born 2005/2006.
Totaly 130 wolf puppys and alsow one in norway.

over 1´500´000 euro has been collected in sweden to protect the wolves in scandinavia, partley throug the project SCANULV.
I think alsow we have imported russian wolfblood ?

All farmers that lose a animal will get 100% compensensation, but the hunters will get 0 %, that might be a problem...

And nobody will get money to protect animals from wolves...yet

I think in Sweden we do much to save the wolf, but I agree more can be done.

Regards / Mikael

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Well I don´t think 18 wolves are a realistic number about 500 in Skandinavia will be more realistic. Even this isn´t much.
The "Gesellschaft zum Schutz der Wölfe" gives money to lifestock-protecting work worldwide maybe they should get in contact with them.

And I don´t see any reasons why hunters should get any money. Following their own arguments they only want to protect the wildlife. There is no better way then to have a selection through natural predators.

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Well I don´t think 18 wolves are a realistic number about 500 in Skandinavia will be more realistic. Even this isn´t much.
The "Gesellschaft zum Schutz der Wölfe" gives money to lifestock-protecting work worldwide maybe they should get in contact with them.

And I don´t see any reasons why hunters should get any money. Following their own arguments they only want to protect the wildlife. There is no better way then to have a selection through natural predators.

Yes about 200 it is but there are only about 132-156 grovn up volves in Sweden, I do not know numbers from Norway and Finland, but here are the Swedish ones...

2004/2005 24 familys 101-109 grovn wolves
2005/2006 27-28 familys 114-124 grovn wolves
2006/2007 28-29 familys 112-129 grovn wolves
2007/2008 33-41 familys 132-156 grovn wolves

In 2008 19 litters was registred and there was about 152 wolf puppys.

I think this is god numbers

Also 3 registred wolves has past in to Sweden from Finland / Russia 2007 / 2008, but DNA tests on excerement = poo-poo will probably prove that more wolves has immigrated in from that area.

Best regads / Mikael

[Mikael]

Sorry rolf I did not have time to se your post

Regads / Mikael

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Mikael

In Sweden there are about 200 wolves and 15 litter was born 2005/2006.
Totaly 130 wolf puppys and alsow one in norway.

over 1´500´000 euro has been collected in sweden to protect the wolves in scandinavia, partley throug the project SCANULV.
I think alsow we have imported russian wolfblood ?

All farmers that lose a animal will get 100% compensensation, but the hunters will get 0 %, that might be a problem...

And nobody will get money to protect animals from wolves...yet

I think in Sweden we do much to save the wolf, but I agree more can be done.

Regards / Mikael

Sorry ....numbers I wrote is packs of wolves, not induviduals
But still it is not much consideret the size of the countries !

I all lives Europe is about 17.-18.000 wolves.

The Iberians(Spain and Portugal) lives about 2.500 wolves.
The Western and central Alpes lives about 100-120 wolves.
The Apennirian Mountains(Italy) lives about 100, but some of them are hybrids.
Balkan lives about 5.000 wolves.
carpathia(nothern Bulgaria, eastern Serbia, Rumania, southwestern Ukraine, Slovakia, southern Poland and Czrch rep.) lives about 5.000 wolves.
Baltics lives about 3.600 wolves.
Finland lives about 750 wolves.
Sweden and Norway lives about 150 wolves.
Germany and western Poland lives about 40-50 wolves.

According to WWF(World Wild Foundation).

Rolf