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[BlueBelton]

Originally Posted by thomas

it so easy understand ...

No it's not, as breeding and business never go together hand in hand. And all respectable breeders know it.. Do you know that good dogs from respectable breeders are not for sale to anyone who wishes to buy? Respectable and honest breeders choose owners for their puppies. If a person who wants to buy a puppy is not worth it then respectable breeder doesn't sell it to him. To get a good dog from a wonderfull kennel usually you must prove that you will be the best owner in the world for their puppy and that you are worth it.
So my question is - how do you select the owners? If the customer is very rich but know nothing about the dogs (and he even doesn't try to know something because he doesn't care, he wants the puppy only because of the prestige) do you still desperately try to find a dog for him? -- the question is rhetorical and need no answer, because answer is clear as crystal. You search puppies for anyone who wishes to buy as long as they pay money. And you don't care if the puppy will spend the rest of it's life like an unloved creature or even will be put to the shelter.

Sure, this is business. And business is business. That's why business never go together with honest and respectable breeding.

[thomas]

Okay !! But you know we are not say to breeders please sale your puppies to my owners and we are not liar that i will say to breeders please sale to me puppy .. i will look your puppy best ... We are saying directly We are dog consultant and we can find your puppy new owners if you dont want you can not accept ... its breeders decission... I said always to breeders i have owners for your puppies accept or disaccept... and that;s all... and i think so that our systems is perfect...

1) We find new owners for your puppies
2) We get deposit after deposit you contact with owners if you accept we will sent money to your account.. if no money back to owner...
3) We are not selling puppies look likes apples !!
4) We have not farm that we can buy 100 puppies and selling im not stupid ..why i need this farm and bigrisk im selling informations and thats all !! i have no petshop all pupps stay on my shop... no we are selling info!!

[BlueBelton]

[quote=thomas;170901] We are dog consultant and we can find your puppy new owners [quote]

How can you be a consultant without necessary expierience? You said by yourself for example that you know nothing about CSW. And what do you know about huskies, JRT's and many other breeds? So how can you consult people?

As I said the respectable and honest breeder will never use your service because of the arguments I stated. In my opinion you may get interest only from the "breeders" who don't care too much about their puppies. And because of the lack of your knowlege and non-selective system (which surely needs knowlege too) lots of puppies may go to unworthy homes.

Well again I will state that respectable breeding will never go together with business.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by BlueBelton

As I said the respectable and honest breeder will never use your service because of the arguments I stated. In my opinion you may get interest only from the "breeders" who don't care too much about their puppies. And because of the lack of your knowlege and non-selective system (which surely needs knowlege too) lots of puppies may go to unworthy homes.

Well again I will state that respectable breeding will never go together with business.

Plus an owner who goes this way isn´t a good owner for a responsible breeder. He didn´t get himself informed or we wouldn´t choose this way.

Ina

[thomas]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Plus an owner who goes this way isn´t a good owner for a responsible breeder. He didn´t get himself informed or we wouldn´t choose this way.

Ina

okay its a no problem We respect your choice and please you respect our
good luck !!

[BlueBelton]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Plus an owner who goes this way isn´t a good owner for a responsible breeder. He didn´t get himself informed or we wouldn´t choose this way.

Ina

Absolutely right

[thomas]

I think so that You dont want understand or You do not understand !! I can not know 50 breeds history or training or maiting.. I said again and i will say again !!

1) Owners come to me said i want to get CSW yes... I said okay..
2) I found breeders get info about litters and parents info
3) Give to all info to Owner
4) If owner wants to buy give deposit
5) After deposit contacts with breeders
a) If breeders said that this owners not good for my puppies deposit comeback to owner
6) If okay then Breders sale puppies to buyer .. and prepare all papers to new owners name

I think so easy understand that ..

Sure that i understand to you You do not want work with this systems. okay its for us no problem on the worlds breders realy more and more !! somebody like my sytems and work with us or no... but you can not say on me that we are doing bad... I said we are selling no puppies we are selling info !!..

[BlueBelton]

Originally Posted by thomas

1) Owners come to me said i want to get CSW yes... I said okay..

ok. you find the litter. The breeder says - No. This person is not worth the dog. But your customer still wants to get a puppy and he pays more. You search again. For example you find another litter but the breeder's answer is the same. So you will search for the puppy as long as your customer pays you, aren't you? And your service not depends on what kind of person is your customer, as long as he pays, you desperately will search for puppy.. Well I stated all the situation before..

Sure that i understand to you You do not want work with this systems.

sorry but I can see only one positive feature of your system. It will be a good help for respectable breeders to know who is who. And to know with which other breeders and puppy buyer not to have any contact at all.

[BlueBelton]

sorry I made nonsense with quotation because of the rush

[thomas]

[quote=BlueBelton;170916]

Originally Posted by thomas

1) Owners come to me said i want to get CSW yes... I said okay..




sorry but I can see only one positive feature of your system. It will be a good help for respectable breeders to know who is who. And to know with which other breeders and puppy buyer not to have any contact at all.

You do not want see others and show just one look all !!! it will be good

1) Owners come to me said i want to get CSW yes... I said okay..
2) I found breeders get info about litters and parents info
3) Give to all info to Owner
4) If owner wants to buy give deposit
5) After deposit contacts with breeders
a) If breeders said that this owners not good for my puppies deposit comeback to owner
6) If okay then Breders sale puppies to buyer .. and prepare all papers to new owners name

[thomas]

sorry but i do not want more discuss i explain my sytems what more !! nothing and i did say anybody work with me .. here was discoussion and i have to explain and thats all.. not more

Thanks for all
Good Blees all breeders for economic crises !!!

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Sorry but you don´t seem to understand. All informations you can give the future owner can find here on this site for free. So the only good thing of your system is that it clearly shows that the future owner either isn´t willing to spend time and thoughts to the breed he is interested in or that he is too stupid to do so, in both cases he is no suitable owner

Ina

[thomas]

[quote=BlueBelton;
Sure, this is business. And business is business. That's why business never go together with honest and respectable breeding.[/quote]

I have questions sorry
1)For what you breeds your puppies for business for hobby?
2) When you get puppies you are giving for free or for money !!!
3) You never sale puppies abroad ?? I mean not export to other country...
4) If somebody wants to buy your puppy from USA people must come to your kennel and expense for puppy 4000 usd fly ticket ...
5) How you choice your owners if owners from USA or From Brazil or maybe your princip not sale to USA or Brasil ???
6) Our jobs is not puppymill , Puppymill its mean you get everymonths 50 puppies and sale ... I said many times but people if does not understand then i can do anythings... We are selling info !!!!

[thomas]

and last questions is
I check all discuss more answer from Lithuania I think that problem !! concurency !! Beacause im living to Lithuania !! its same region We are working!! If you are breeds puppy just for hobby then you are no necesary my help .. But you know all the world not just Lithuania... Lithuania small country .. is maybe 2 CSW Breeders .. but all the world is maybe 50 breeders i dont know realy !!.. .. What dou you think that i deleted CSW pictures... now is good for everybody now you are happy.. i think so that of smart people must say... CSW pictures must be on every website its big promotions... ( Sure that with copyright this was my mistakes i accept but just Hanka's dog)
about puppies i have permission ..

Best Regards

[BlueBelton]

Originally Posted by thomas

I have questions sorry
1)For what you breeds your puppies for business for hobby?

I do not breed dogs. My friends worldwide do not breed puppies neither for business nor only for just breeding. They breed dogs for the selection and for the sake af the breed.

2) When you get puppies you are giving for free or for money !!!

Ir the person is the best owner in the world and is worth it, he can get the puppy for free easily. Everything depends on the situation.

3) You never sale puppies abroad ?? I mean not export to other country...

I do not breed. But it doesn't matter where are you from, the matter is WHO YOU are.

4) If somebody wants to buy your puppy from USA people must come to your kennel and expense for puppy 4000 usd fly ticket ...

Usually respectable breeders comunicate with peolple who are interested in their puppy not several days or weeks, the comunication can last a year, two or even more if needed. After some time you start to know and rely on each other and then the breeder can send the puppy simply on CARGO.

5) How you choice your owners if owners from USA or From Brazil or maybe your princip not sale to USA or Brasil ???

look to number 1). But still If I have any progeny I surely never will send it to USA. But it's a different thing, it's breed's policy.

[thomas]

Quote:
4) If somebody wants to buy your puppy from USA people must come to your kennel and expense for puppy 4000 usd fly ticket ...
Usually respectable breeders comunicate with peolple who are interested in their puppy not several days or weeks, the comunication can last a year, two or even more if needed. After some time you start to know and rely on each other and then the breeder can send the puppy simply on CARGO.

its not good ansver !!

Maybe They are actor and How you can know that they are not liar to you!!
How you can cominucates they are writing to you email and you answer.. but you dont know exactly where is people living !! .. sorry its answer was nooo!!! ... better no sale to abroad puppy !!

[BlueBelton]

Originally Posted by thomas

its not good ansver !!
Maybe They are actor and How you can know that they are not liar to you!!
How you can cominucates they are writing to you email and you answer.. but you dont know exactly where is people living !! .. sorry its answer was nooo!!! ... better no sale to abroad puppy !!

Nonsense. You can't lie a year or two By the way, there are cellphones nowadays, not only e-mails.

[GalomyOak]

Originally Posted by thomas

Quote:
4) If somebody wants to buy your puppy from USA people must come to your kennel and expense for puppy 4000 usd fly ticket ...
Usually respectable breeders comunicate with peolple who are interested in their puppy not several days or weeks, the comunication can last a year, two or even more if needed. After some time you start to know and rely on each other and then the breeder can send the puppy simply on CARGO.

its not good ansver !!

Maybe They are actor and How you can know that they are not liar to you!!
How you can cominucates they are writing to you email and you answer.. but you dont know exactly where is people living !! .. sorry its answer was nooo!!! ... better no sale to abroad puppy !!

As an owner from the US, I can say that I went through months of communication with both of my breeders - one of my breeders stayed with me at my house in the USA - it was a long and wonderful process, not overnight. I fee that I have a very close friendship with my breeders. Before I bought a dog, I did as much research as I could, and still try to learn more every day. The owner from Brazil traveled to Europe to meet her breeders! Buying a puppy should never be a quick and easy choice made in a day or a week...

[thomas]

its good sample for new owners its means if you can sent puppy by cargo You can not know that owners is good or not sure !! its not way ship puppy by cargo and just talk by messenger or email sure !! its fantastic example.. but everybreeders or every buyer can expense for that its big ??????????

[thomas]

okay thanks for discuss just i wanted to join here that we are not puppymiller i explained all our systems how is works !! Breeders or Buyer can choice which systems for him is best Best Regards.. I do not want more join beacause im not breeders or owner for CSW thank again

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