Health problems by Zlata palz

[Monika]

Originally Posted by z Peronówki

We all know... You are repeating it over, and over and over again.... But do you know how many breeders I know (everybody knows) who are breeding toons of dogs every year, breeding dogs since 40-50 years. But still having NO IDEA why they should make the crazy health tests....

I really have good suggestion for you - instead of puffing yourself start finally to answer the questions. Maybe start with Michael?
Because what you are trying to be, dear "FCI JUDGE", is nothing worth till there is no meaning and no knowledge behind your words.. So instead of "I'm the ....bla bla bla" maybe you will be so kind and write the answers...?

I am absolutly sure, that Michal knows, where, when and what kind of problems his dogs has or had. My note not was attack to him, and I am sure, that from my text is it clear. But not for everybody and for fanatics

I care about all " healt problems " not only about HD or Ed, where I don´t see problem in population of CSWs - no fatal! When I am not able to see clearly klinic problems and dogs with " C " more like 7 years old is able to pass every weekend 50 km - 7 years! - the dog is healthy and x - ray and opinion one vet is for me not too much. Only info about 2 joints in whole body, what work perfec!
Congenital hearts defect , degenerative myelopathie affect quality of life fundamentally. Eyes problems not are rare, too.
And if you want so I am concrete, here is one pedigree for example of dead dog with degenerative myelopathie ( for some persons can be interesting how HD combination Michal made)
http://zmolu.vlcak.cz/Files/zdravi/D_myelopatie.pdf
Sorry, Michael but you are big fun of internet discussion, Me not, because I am sure this not deals nothing, and I am absolutly sure that everywhere - in each family and linie is something

Good night, Monika

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Monika

When I am not able to see clearly klinic problems and dogs with " C " more like 7 years old is able to pass every weekend 50 km - 7 years! - the dog is healthy and x - ray and opinion one vet is for me not too much.

People, do you see what I do? This is.... incredible!?

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by Z peronowki

But still having NO IDEA why they should make the crazy health tests....

Originally Posted by Monika

When I am not able to see clearly klinic problems and dogs with " C " more like 7 years old is able to pass every weekend 50 km - 7 years! - the dog is healthy and x - ray and opinion one vet is for me not too much.

Isn't it?

Originally Posted by Monika

Congenital hearts defect , degenerative myelopathie affect quality of life fundamentally. Eyes problems not are rare, too.

Like well said by the vets when we talk about different not much popular diseases in a breed "when we search we find".
Probably have some cases of very different problems in the most variate lines. When the number is pretty restrict normaly people dont care, it when they had knowledge about it, sometimes this problem could appear because of a smal mutation in this dog itself, does not means that whole breed have the problem, it would be like a smal warn about a possible problem for we investigate, but when it start to become popular (ike Elbow displasy) it start to worrie.
Luckly some diseases are easy controlable, principally now with the genetics tests, which we have already avaible like for piturary dwarfism and degenerative myelopathie, thanks to Mijke and the owners of the affected dogs, that agree in help for validade the tests.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by Monika

I am absolutly sure, that Michal knows, where, when and what kind of problems his dogs has or had. My note not was attack to him, and I am sure, that from my text is it clear. But not for everybody and for fanatics

I care about all " healt problems " not only about HD or Ed, where I don´t see problem in population of CSWs - no fatal! When I am not able to see clearly klinic problems and dogs with " C " more like 7 years old is able to pass every weekend 50 km - 7 years! - the dog is healthy and x - ray and opinion one vet is for me not too much. Only info about 2 joints in whole body, what work perfec!
Congenital hearts defect , degenerative myelopathie affect quality of life fundamentally. Eyes problems not are rare, too.
And if you want so I am concrete, here is one pedigree for example of dead dog with degenerative myelopathie ( for some persons can be interesting how HD combination Michal made)
http://zmolu.vlcak.cz/Files/zdravi/D_myelopatie.pdf
Sorry, Michael but you are big fun of internet discussion, Me not, because I am sure this not deals nothing, and I am absolutly sure that everywhere - in each family and linie is something

Good night, Monika

Sorry Monika, but I still do not know what you are talking about and cannot open the link so please we would like to know which dog and which health problem!
And I want proof and evidence, maybe some veterinary report, not only gossip and lies.
I am grateful and not proud if the vast majority of our dogs is healthy, but no one can garantee 100%, of whatsoever.
I would recomment that you look also at the dogs bred by you.
A big source...

Michael

[Monika]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Sorry Monika, but I still do not know what you are talking about and cannot open the link so please we would like to know which dog and which health problem!
And I want proof and evidence, maybe some veterinary report, not only gossip and lies.
I am grateful and not proud if the vast majority of our dogs is healthy, but no one can garantee 100%, of whatsoever.
I would recomment that you look also at the dogs bred by you.
A big source...

Michael

http://zmolu.vlcak.cz/Files/zdravi/D_myelopatie.pdf

The name of dead dog is Amyska Zlata Palz ( ask to owner, please Michal before your attacking.)
I do not collect gossip, sorry, like big fans of woldog. org!

Monika Soukupova

[Mikael]

Hmmmmm Amyska Zlata Palz was born year 2000...

Totally there was Three dead dog of 88 dogs born between 2000-2009 in the database at the kennel Zlata Palz info, and this topic is called "Health problems by Zlata palz"

Maybe all kennels must get a Health problem topic now...
Or Is three of 88 considered to be a high number ???

Or is this just another fighting topic ???

Best regards / Mikael

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Monika,

we know that for a long time, since the owner had contacted us.
And it's no secret...
We don't hide things or x-ray dogs somewhere else...
One out of 88 (still one too many), but I'm still grateful and humble about the little number.
Not proud.
To create health problems out of this is ridicoulos, stupid and shows in what hypocrit you turned in the recent years (more than 10 actually).
As Margo wrote it's probabely envy and your growing irrelevance as a breeder (except G and J litter), during that period.
Not to mention your Mutara involvement...
You f....d a lot of things up.
Since I don't want to create a senseless fight I stop here and don't go on the various diseases ( heart problems, epilepsy, cryptochism, ...) spread by
"z Molu es" kennel.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to accuse you and it can probabely happen to any breeder, but due to those facts you ought to be a little bit more humble and modest.
Anyway, I hope I have clarified a few things my dear.

Michael

[Monika]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Monika,

we know that for a long time, since the owner had contacted us.
And it's no secret...
We don't hide things or x-ray dogs somewhere else...
One out of 88 (still one too many), but I'm still grateful and humble about the little number.
Not proud.
To create health problems out of this is ridicoulos, stupid and shows in what hypocrit you turned in the recent years (more than 10 actually).
As Margo wrote it's probabely envy and your growing irrelevance as a breeder (except G and J litter), during that period.
Not to mention your Mutara involvement...
You f....d a lot of things up.
Since I don't want to create a senseless fight I stop here and don't go on the various diseases ( heart problems, epilepsy, cryptochism, ...) spread by
"z Molu es" kennel.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to accuse you and it can probabely happen to any breeder, but due to those facts you ought to be a little bit more humble and modest.
Anyway, I hope I have clarified a few things my dear.

Michael

Artificial problems and "causes" creates only this forum, but which is can not solve it and only further and further deepens the mutual animosity between breeders. And humility?? Would be worth talking to in other contexts and other people, just look at the some website ......

I am still same.
My view of dogs, their nature, exterior and health is quite real and keeping and breeding of CSWs is for me not a fight - the war, but no compensation of own complexes!


A Mutary?? - Please do not be ridiculous, sometimes just to listen to facts and not gossip.


Unfortunately, your words are just silly defense and proof of how irrelevant and stupid you are just yourself.

Why you speaking about kryptorchism, epilepsy and heart problems?
For example: You speaking about kryptorchizm because you know 1 kryptorchid dog in Germany ??? Hmm..you are big expert!
Kryptorchismus incidence in the general population is around 5%.
Kryptorchismus is problem, yes, but it is not life - threatening
.
We are absolutly sure, that my kennel is well below this limit!
Write the name of my dog z Molu Es with epilepsy and congenital heart defect (not Hoky, please), for me it will be beneficial and useful information, thanks.
I know from which line comes from and where the epilepsy occurs more frequently than elsewhere.


Have and breed only a healthy and versatile dogs!

Monika Soukupová

[Pavel]

Originally Posted by Monika

A Mutary?? - Please do not be ridiculous, sometimes just to listen to facts and not gossip.

Dont tell something about it, Michael and Inna, Monika have already nothing to do with Mutara. It knows everybody

Originally Posted by Monika

Write the name of my dog z Molu Es with epilepsy and congenital heart defect (not Hoky, please), for me it will be beneficial and useful information, thanks.

If you, Monika, just touch Hokys name - I never tax you anything in this sense, but I have just many signals, that from Hokys mother (Ajbix) comes possibily this problems. Last case is Arnarmo z Toulavého ráje.

You show self like a top breeder without problems. But everybody knows your Go-go and the way, how she get to breed. And how is it with Upstream ? Explaine, why you have buy in her puppy age the special medicins for hip joints ?