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Old 04-12-2009, 13:13   #1
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So you mean that I did`nt drag my dog as hard as Botis were ?
Well I have no intentions of duing so...
Dear Rolf - the problem (YOUR PROBLEM) is that on every endurance run there are many people who see and can confirm the reality.

Botis passed 100km already two times. Such distance is for him nothing. He has the best times in SVP1, SVP2 and SVP3. He loves to run and he can easily run over 20km/h (it is still running and not gallop). He was NEVER draged. And saying anything else is just a lie who can be confirmed by anybody who saw him running.


Unfortunately "draging the dogs" apply exactly to you. For me you are a HERO - VERY strong man who will be able to make 100km even with Fila Brasileiro (alhough I can imagine the look of such poor dog after the test). I saw only three dogs which were draged so much - one fall down on the track, second gave up after 20km and only Uno was the only one who finished the track.

My words are not invented right now - it can be confirmed by the organizators of the endurance run in Samorin that I complained about the CACT given to Uno because for me he (or maybe better said: you) didn't deserve it. Uno was draged and after the run he had good visible problems with the forelegs (typical sign for dragged dogs). He was going to the car with stiffed legs and visible pain. My personal opinion is that CACT should be given to dogs which make the test within excellent time and finish it in excellent condition. Any not to ANY dog who passed it (expecially when it is visible it was already "too much" for him).
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Old 04-12-2009, 15:34   #2
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Unfortunately "draging the dogs" apply exactly to you.
If you are feeling a strong urge to exaggerate, please make a topic called "fairy tales"
I will happily admit that Uno had no motivation for going back the same way he just came from and I did drag him maybe 20-30m. and then he started to run again, this have nothing to do with cabability, but with motivation. I had never run more than 20-25km(except for SVP1/40km) with Uno before we made SVP2, so ofcourse he was tired and had sore legs(it`s not a bad thing), but his paws was checked and he had no damage to his paws(if I draged him like you apply, he sure would have some damage on his paws), on top of that he was playing with a female just 5-10min. after the run, trying to cover her, so energy or cabability was no issue ...only motivation.

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For me you are a HERO
I am your HERO ??? ...you surely don`t show it a lot

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My words are not invented right now - it can be confirmed by the organizators by the endurance run in Samorin that I complained about the CACT given to Uno because for me he (or maybe better said: you) didn't deserved it.
I have absolutly no doubt that your complain can be confirmed, but it says nothing about your complain is rightfully made and since the organizators did not agree with you, it seems like you were just complaining about nothing as usual


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Uno was draged and after the run he had good visible problems with the forelegs (typical sing for dragged dogs). He was going to the car with stiffed legs and visible pain.
Apparently you see things who are not there, organizers did`nt agree with you, I don`t agree with you for sure and everybody was telling me "well done" after the run and clapping their hands when we recieved the CACT, so could it be possible that you are wrong and everybody else is right ??? ...I`m sure if Uno had visible problems with forlegs and pain, he would not have started to play with this female and for sure not trying to cover her, but growling of her instead, because she was not in the right time for breeding.

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My personal opinion is that CACT should be given to dogs which make the test within excellent time and finish it in excellent condition. Any not to ANY dog who passed it (expecially when it is visible it was already "too much" for him).
As the organizers confirmed, your personal opinion means nothing to anybody except to your loyal subjects, you see things who are not there, why should anybody care about what you are saying or complaining about ?

Please, if you nothing reasonable/sensible to say, it`s better to say nothing at all !
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Old 04-12-2009, 16:45   #3
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Apparently you see things who are not there, organizers did`nt agree with you, I don`t agree with you for sure and everybody was telling me "well done" after the run and clapping their hands when we recieved the CACT, so could it be possible that you are wrong and everybody else is right ??? ...I`m sure if Uno had visible problems with forlegs and pain, he would not have started to play with this female and for sure not trying to cover her, but growling of her instead, because she was not in the right time for breeding.
Rolf, I really didn't expect any other answer. But it is only what I saw and what other saw too. And even if you write the situation was different it will not change the reallity...
About the judge in Samorin and his competence I will say nothing else than: he is just an unfair ignoramus (how else should we decribe someone who disqualified 4 dogs who passed the run in PERFECT condition and in PERFECT time but allowed to run a histeristic dog who run away during the run and gave CACT only for passing the test). And I think many participants will agree with me. Expecially Daniela, the owner of Amore Mio....

What I saw was Uno who was going on a really strange way back to the car. If it is his "normal" way of walking - sorry... really strange one...

The playing and traing covering a female is no argument - just see that the dog was able to go also to the car. I didn't wrote he almost fall down on the track. I just wrote it his forelegs were in bad condition showing pain typical for dog which are draged. Not for 30meters but many kilometers.
Uno was plaing with a female? Wolfdogs are really amazing animals - dying Bolton (surfering a huge pain and extrem anaemia) was not only moving but also plaing with our guests before the operation when the vets discovered his condition is hopeless and it make no sence to wake him up because he whould be able to live only 2-3 days...
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Margo you are speaking about ghosts(things who were not there), I don`t believe in ghosts, so I can not make any comments about it...
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