Long Coat - Genetic Problem?

[Morian]

Please read once again name of this topic. I thought we speak about Miky. Isn't it?.. Look here please. And here too (if you're interesting why do we all laugh).

[massimo]

Originally Posted by Morian

Please read once again name of this topic. I thought we speak about Miky. Isn't it?.. Look here please. And here too (if you're interesting why do we all laugh).

I read the whole topic and it also speaks about other lines with long hair, not only Miky. (FYI, I think title is given by MOD and not by original person who posted message, so MOD can put any title he likes)

I was just trying to understand, so you are saying that Monika, breeder of X Wild Planet, sent a "couple" for breeding in Russia, X Wild Planet and Brian z Reviru Vlku?
From what I see no brother of litter Brian has long hair and, I repeat once more, number of sons of Miky with long hair is very very low in percentage, also if you consider the fact that same genetics (mikyxfendy) has been with 7 litters giving 33 puppies (statistically it's one of the highest number of CSW coming from same father and mother of all CSW history, record is Chlouba de Wolf ArimminumxEDGARWOLF) and from what I know only 2 dogs where long haired.
I am no expert but I assume that 2 puppies on a total of 33 from same female and 163 all together doesn't make a stud such a risky animal.
I suppose it is not Miky himself but the combination of his genes with other females with same recessive genes that "could" give longer hair, I don't think it's the worst thing that can happen in the csw world...but surely I'm wrong, I'm not as experienced as others who write in this thread...

[Morian]

Well, procentage and potential possibility are different things, I think.

And. Breeding is not just a way of making $. Breeding is hard work. Every Breeder must eliminate risks of exterier, health and other defects. Is it normal? Yes! But I can't understand some ideas... When genetics, breeding rules etc are not the keynote, then what? Business plan? Or what else?

Originally Posted by Morian

Well, procentage and potential possibility are different things, I think.

I'm sorry, I have absolutely zero experience with any of this sort of thing, but I'm reading & curious, so I just wanted a clarification.... isn't percentage just the actual statistic of potential possibility?

Or maybe is it you mean the actual result doesn't necessarily reflect the genetic probability statistic? Just thought of that now.

[massimo]

Originally Posted by Morian

Well, procentage and potential possibility are different things, I think.

...as for potential, in that case you should NOT ever breed... all dogs can give something bad "potentially"

[Morian]

Massimo, breeding means selection.

Originally Posted by Vicky

I'm sorry, I have absolutely zero experience with any of this sort of thing, but I'm reading & curious, so I just wanted a clarification.... isn't percentage just the actual statistic of potential possibility?

Or maybe is it you mean the actual result doesn't necessarily reflect the genetic probability statistic? Just thought of that now.

Vicky, I mean only that percentage can be calculated on the basis of past expirience. And potential possibility = future or actual risks which must be eliminated by breeding. Or breeding is just increase of population?

[elf]

Sorry having excavated this thread , I just wanted you know we cannot say "do carry the gene for long hair", we already knew from experiences that this did not work like this, but now we deeper know why.