Crying Wolf - kennel

[massimo]

the circle goes round and round and it's time again to speak bad about cryinw wolf kennel.
funny that arguments are always the same (shy dogs bla bla) but people are not careful about what they say, they speak just to give air to the wind.

Question: does CW kennel breed WORKING CSWs?
Repy: does ANY BREEDER breed working CSW...please, avoid replying otherwise I will start laughing and never stop.

Question: have the characters of CW dogs improved during these years?
Repy: just look at the males Edit has been using recently...all strong charactered dogs, with good bloodlines.

You want to know a dog from CW who could be good for working? many...
problem is OWNER, not only dog!!

Echo Crying Wolf has got CAL2, examination for balanced dog (socialization with people, gunshot) and biting sleeve without leash.
He is now training for Ipo (hopefully!) while bla bla speaks on wolfdog forum.

Not only Crying Wolf has shy and bad dogs...but also all breeders who use their males are stupid and understand nothing...
Ariminnum, Zlata Palz, Sdrcervac to make a few names.

when will you guys stop speaking about virtuality and start speaking about facts??

[massimo]

oh...i forgot to say...
Myla crying wolf is one of my favourite dogs ON EARTH.
Why? give her the right handler (sorry christian) and she could make miracles.

[yukidomari]

I won't speak about other kennels to compare CW to, because frankly I don't know enough kennels.. I am learning too.

But to address this point:

Originally Posted by massimo

You want to know a dog from CW who could be good for working? many...
problem is OWNER, not only dog!!

That's absolutely true - and a good breeder wouldn't place a dog with a working character in a home where people don't want to do work with it. That's just asking for trouble. Are you saying that CW has placed a lot of working dogs in homes where people don't care to manage that?

[massimo]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

Are you saying that CW has placed a lot of working dogs in homes where people don't care to manage that?

I'm just saying that if a dog with good attitude to work meets an owner who wants to work...then you have a working dog!!
If an owner wants a "wolf looking dog" as 80% of owners...you get a "wolf behaving dog" too!!
Selection of OWNERS is as important as selection of dogs.
If you make many dogs, selecting owners becomes difficult...

Massimo

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by massimo

Selection of OWNERS is as important as selection of dogs.
If you make many dogs, selecting owners becomes difficult...

Massimo

You mean, Crying Wolf is having so many litters every year that she can not select good owners, but MUST sell a puppy to everyone that is interested, good or bad... To young or no experience of owning a dog at all Right ???

Regards / Mikael

[massimo]

Originally Posted by Mikael

You mean, Crying Wolf is having so many litters every year that she can not select good owners, but MUST sell a puppy to everyone that is interested, good or bad... To young or no experience of owning a dog at all Right ???
Regards / Mikael

You are twisting my words a bit, I just said what I think, which is also saying the obvious: the more puppies you make the less chances you have to select perfect owners, that refers to Crying Wolf but also to ANY OTHER breeder who makes more than just 2 or 3 litters per year.
In my opinion a good breeder who selects well shouldn't make more than 4 litters. More than that... Selecting owners is tough.

If you knew a bit better, you would know that Edit keeps the puppies she cannot sell to a good owner if she can instead of selling to anybody.
But surely you know Edit, you have visited her kennel, you've seen in which luxurious house she lives, you've seen how much money she makes on CSW etc... RIGHT? .

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by massimo

If you knew a bit better, you would know that Edit keeps the puppies she cannot sell to a good owner if she can instead of selling to anybody...

Apparently I know her better than you Massimo And I know this is not true The only puppy´s she keep is the one she is to breed on or can not get rid of

Regards / Mikael

[lupis]

Originally Posted by massimo

Question: does CW kennel breed WORKING CSWs?
Repy: does ANY BREEDER breed working CSW...please, avoid replying otherwise I will start laughing and never stop.

I not say about kennel with working dogs because all breed must be working. but here Crying wolf is with untypical charater of dpogs because has not working dogs in working breed.

Originally Posted by massimo

You want to know a dog from CW who could be good for working? many...
problem is OWNER, not only dog!!

If breeder sell dog for all people which pay that is prbolems with onwners. but is show that crying wolf is not responsible breeder if sell dog only to worst owners.

Originally Posted by massimo

Echo Crying Wolf has got CAL2, examination for balanced dog (socialization with people, gunshot) and biting sleeve without leash.
He is now training for Ipo (hopefully!) while bla bla speaks on wolfdog forum.

is for me bad example because is only name of litter because both dogs are of breeder spod Ïumbiera from slovakia. Crying wolkf give only name for kennel but is slovak litter with slovak character. not damaged by crying wolf.

Originally Posted by massimo

Not only Crying Wolf has shy and bad dogs...but also all breeders who use their males are stupid and understand nothing...
Ariminnum, Zlata Palz, Sdrcervac to make a few names.

not good examples because breeder you list are not know for good character. and look for titles not for real good dogs. Sdrcervac has shy dogs too i hear.and zlata palz make bussiness with crying wolf.and sarka not use Crying wolf.

[massimo]

Lupis...you really make me sick!!

Originally Posted by lupis

is for me bad example because is only name of litter because both dogs are of breeder spod Ïumbiera from slovakia. Crying wolkf give only name for kennel but is slovak litter with slovak character. not damaged by crying wolf.

So...if a dog has female from another breeder and male from another breeder it cannot be his own work??
Like 90% of good breeders right? Z molu es (upstream ariminnum is NOT Z molu es) Peronowki (jolly z molu es is NOT Peronowki), Zlata Palz (z rofa is NOT Zlata Palz) Ariminnum (Vlci nadije is NOT Ariminnum)
You should check what you say before writing it... you become more and more ridiculous!

Originally Posted by lupis

not good examples because breeder you list are not know for good character. and look for titles not for real good dogs. Sdrcervac has shy dogs too i hear.and zlata palz make bussiness with crying wolf.and sarka not use Crying wolf.

more and more stupidity... (ok Paula...ban me but he/she/it deserves it!!)
Have you ever met Sdrcervac dogs?? You hear so much crap it should brake you ears!!
Amore Mio has a wonderful character as most of his sisters i've seen...not to mention the other litters!
Zlata Palz... ...
And...Voilà...
http://www.wolfdog.org/ita/dbase/d11153.html
totally Crying wolf male.
You still continue writing on this forum??
You should be so ashamed that the keyboard should refuse to let you write!!

[Angelika]

Lupis, you´re nothing else but a troll who appears every 2 months.

Go home ... and don´t touch your keybord

[massimo]

Originally Posted by Angelika

Lupis, you´re nothing else but a troll who appears every 2 months.

Go home ... and don´t touch your keybord

Angelika...you wanna be my lover??

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by massimo

Angelika...you wanna be my lover??

Sure ...

[mijke]

I did own a crying wolfdog as a replaced dog looking for a new home for a long time..
He was not easy to handle because of his independent and real strong pack behavior.
But he was NOT SHY at all and he did lke to WORK in every way you can only imagine as an owner
For him it was fun to do things with his owner and he did like everything NEW and for him Interested work as long as he could cooperate together So he was used in all kind of art projects (one of my personal goals)

And besides this I don't like to blame any breeder for "behavior" of the offspring of their dogs!
Because behavior of a dog always depents of a lot of things, like for example the personal behavior and raising of the owner

[lupis]

Originally Posted by massimo

Like 90% of good breeders right? Z molu es (upstream ariminnum is NOT Z molu es) Peronowki (jolly z molu es is NOT Peronowki), Zlata Palz (z rofa is NOT Zlata Palz) Ariminnum (Vlci nadije is NOT Ariminnum)
You should check what you say before writing it... you become more and more ridiculous!

you not understand. look dogs and look pedigree. More crying wolf dogs in pedigree is more shy is dog. Echo have no crying wolf in pedigree.
you write too that crying wolf must now use dogs from other kennel to have better charatcer. becasue if use two crying wolf the puppy are shy.

Originally Posted by massimo

more and more stupidity... (ok Paula...ban me but he/she/it deserves it!!)
Have you ever met Sdrcervac dogs?? You hear so much crap it should brake you ears!!
Amore Mio has a wonderful character as most of his sisters i've seen...not to mention the other litters!

Amore is ok i know but other puppies not so good. other litter i not see.

Originally Posted by massimo

Zlata Palz... ...
And...Voilà...
http://www.wolfdog.org/ita/dbase/d11153.html
totally Crying wolf male.

I wrote long time before that many breeders use dogs with titles. blue is best example for breeders not think but breed titles. Is not much typical dog with not nice puppies with no wolf in look. but some titles and breeders with no thinking is goind to use such dog. for me not good excample for good breeder.
show me good breeder who work with dog and use craing wolf.

[massimo]

After this IDIOTIC reply I decided to BAN lupis.
I invite everybody else to do it too (sorry for admins..they can't!!)
Goodbye Lupis...say whatever you want...the AIR will listen to you!!