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Vaiva · 22-09-2010, 09:31

Am I the only one who can not make it work for some time allready? It still shows the combined pedigree, but not common ancestors

buidelwolf · 22-09-2010, 22:30

Hello Vaiva,

For several months I also can no longer use the tool, at least from this Site, which I regret too. I suppose it also has to do with the crash of a hard disk. I assume that this will undoubtedly soon be repaired too.

The tool Elf made available is about simmilar and perhaps even more complete. The only downside of it is that its measurement is is only on a limited number of generations (5). Regarding the COI: the more generations to be measured, the more objectively the outcome as we all know.

Greetings Robbert

mijke · 23-09-2010, 00:18

No Vaiva, even for moderators it works the same at this moment!

But I expect everything will work fine in time

!

yukidomari · 09-10-2010, 10:16

Since now the WD tool doesn't work, and the tool Elf linked is only 5 generation, is there any other way to calculate COI for 10 generations, besides by hand?

elf · 10-10-2010, 12:53

Quote:

5 generation

Hi,

I the tool I set the limit to 8 generations (the server used is not very efficient that's why I needed to add this limit), value are filled by default to 5 but you can change it from 1 to 8.

A.

yukidomari · 10-10-2010, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by elf

Hi,

I the tool I set the limit to 8 generations (the server used is not very efficient that's why I needed to add this limit), value are filled by default to 5 but you can change it from 1 to 8.

A.

Thank you!!

buidelwolf · 10-10-2010, 21:59

The problem of measuring the COI on only a limited number of generations (even on 8 generations), is that most of the large inbreeding effect during the early years, which in particular Rep z Pohranièní stráze has brought, is simply being disregarded. In genetics, the most reliable figures regarding inbreeding are obtained if one measures the COI on as many generations as possible. In that respect it is regrettable that the COI measurement on ALL generations (temporarily?), is no longer possible on wolfdog.

Elf, being a fan of your statistic tool, does it ever get that possibility in the future?

Regards

22-09-2010, 09:31	#1
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22-09-2010, 22:30	#2
buidelwolf senior member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 163	Hello Vaiva, For several months I also can no longer use the tool, at least from this Site, which I regret too. I suppose it also has to do with the crash of a hard disk. I assume that this will undoubtedly soon be repaired too. The tool Elf made available is about simmilar and perhaps even more complete. The only downside of it is that its measurement is is only on a limited number of generations (5). Regarding the COI: the more generations to be measured, the more objectively the outcome as we all know. Greetings Robbert Last edited by buidelwolf; 22-09-2010 at 22:33.

23-09-2010, 00:18	#3
mijke Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Warnsveld Posts: 2,033	No Vaiva, even for moderators it works the same at this moment! But I expect everything will work fine in time ! __________________ Vriendelijke groeten, Mijke PS: I am not a moderator anymore!!

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09-10-2010, 10:16	#4
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Since now the WD tool doesn't work, and the tool Elf linked is only 5 generation, is there any other way to calculate COI for 10 generations, besides by hand?

10-10-2010, 21:59	#7
buidelwolf senior member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 163	The problem of measuring the COI on only a limited number of generations (even on 8 generations), is that most of the large inbreeding effect during the early years, which in particular Rep z Pohranièní stráze has brought, is simply being disregarded. In genetics, the most reliable figures regarding inbreeding are obtained if one measures the COI on as many generations as possible. In that respect it is regrettable that the COI measurement on ALL generations (temporarily?), is no longer possible on wolfdog. Elf, being a fan of your statistic tool, does it ever get that possibility in the future? Regards