DM transmission: DM/DM x DM/DM = N/DM?

[CDaniela]

- Rambo C.W (DM/DM) x Chaddey Spod Dumbiera (N/N) produced a male which is N/N
- Rambo CW (DM/DM) x Bubka de New Flame produced a female which is N/N
- Sibir C.W.(DM/DM) x Bubka de New Flame produced a female which is N/N too



It isn´t possible.

[Rona]

Originally Posted by CDaniela

- Rambo C.W (DM/DM) x Chaddey Spod Dumbiera (N/N) produced a male which is N/N
- Rambo CW (DM/DM) x Bubka de New Flame produced a female which is N/N
- Sibir C.W.(DM/DM) x Bubka de New Flame produced a female which is N/N too
It isn´t possible.

Nor even probable, according to my vet... If for obvious reasons a mistake and a lie are excluded a miracle remains. I opt for a miracle then

[jmvdwiel]

It can be true
http://www.medgen.ubc.ca/wrobinson/m...enatal/upd.htm

But in those cases I would want to know if the dogs that don't fit into the statistics are really the children of the parents.

[wolfin]

hmm strange - and now this "mutation" ( like and red nose dogs) are from one kennel when are tested almost 500 ( maybe and moore) dogs and only this dogs have not corect results.
Rona, yes all lab is ok-results are THIS SAME ( we have this same results and from OFFA and from CZ Universitat)

[Silvester]

Originally Posted by CDaniela
- Rambo C.W (DM/DM) x Chaddey Spod Dumbiera (N/N) produced a male which is N/N
- Rambo CW (DM/DM) x Bubka de New Flame produced a female which is N/N
- Sibir C.W.(DM/DM) x Bubka de New Flame produced a female which is N/N too
It isn´t possible.


Exactly - It is not possible indeed !

Quod erat demonstrantum -
but of course , yeah, a miracle can all time happen.... if one believes in such things. (??)

A miracle like the virgin birth ....!!

It´s just biological nonsense, like the example before.

Best regards, Uli alias Silvester

[Sherdor]

And why not think that the DM test is not totally OK ???

Maybe this test is not totally effective for the DM problem...

[draggar]

Here's a thought - could one of the parents be a chimera?

This could play serious havoc with generics. While the dog itself may be affected, what if the other was normal? This could explain one step (DM/DM to N/DM) but unless there were two chimeras it could double step (DM/DM to N/N).

Very highly improbable but not completely impossible.

[Jet]

Originally Posted by wolfin

hmm strange - and now this "mutation" ( like and red nose dogs) are from one kennel when are tested almost 500 ( maybe and moore) dogs and only this dogs have not corect results.
Rona, yes all lab is ok-results are THIS SAME ( we have this same results and from OFFA and from CZ Universitat)

Yes it is really strange...
I really believe in Lorry, because she is working against the DM since a long time. And as she is definitly open to test her dogs, there is certainly another way to verify that.

[Lorry - MLS]

Originally Posted by Jet

Yes it is really strange...
I really believe in Lorry, because she is working against the DM since a long time. And as she is definitly open to test her dogs, there is certainly another way to verify that.

Merci de ce soutien inattendu ....

Petite intervention rapide et en français, car je n'ai pas le temps de faire de la traduction....

J'ai obtenu de la part de la propriétaire de Cyntia Spod Dumbiera de refaire les tests pour la 2ème fois, tant au niveau MD que de la filiation
Moi même je me suis engagée à refaire pour le 3ème fois, les tests de Rambo au niveau de la MD et également de la filiation ....
Nous allons mettre celà en place très prochainement et le tout sera envoyé directement à Daniela pour d'ultimes vérifications faites par Elle ....

Espérant que si elle proclame, elle même, que les résultats sont bien ceux que j'ai déjà annoncés .... on la prendra au sérieux et on ne mettra pas SA parole en doute ....

Je tenais à dire à toutes les personnes, qui semblent à chaque fois, remettre en question, la validité ou le résultat les tests effectués à plusieurs reprises que vous ne favorisez pas la volonté de transparence

Très honnêtement, si j'avais su, que je devrais autant me battre, à essayer de vous persuader que les tests n'ont pas été falsifiés, ni par moi ni par quiconque, je ne penses pas que j'aurai pris la décision d'annoncer les résultats MD publiquement ...

Je comprends mieux maintenant ceux qui font le choix de les cacher !

[Sherdor]

I totally give my support to Lorry for that test.

She has nothing to win (or to loose) to give false results... and only made this tests to understand and help the breed with this disease.

I also understood that Lorry stop breeding... and her behaviour must to be honored for that int his case !

If strange results remained... i think that the effectiveness of THE ACTUAL TEST to check DM disease must be study... or other genetic possibilities (chimera... but i reallly know nothing about that)