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Antigo 07-04-2011, 21:43   #1
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Somehow this topic doesn't seem like a good idea - this might soon turn into insulting... There are many purebred wolfdogs, that are not really very good looking... In many lines... In many countries... Especially in bad photos
I totaly agree!
But somehow I see it like a good exercise for us.
So MORIAN,in your last picture I can recognize a very high percentage of wild wolf or even a wild wolf For the rest I have to learn more.
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Antigo 07-04-2011, 22:06   #2
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So MORIAN,in your last picture I can recognize a very high percentage of wild wolf or even a wild wolf For the rest I have to learn more.
ooops bogdan this is not a wolf. this is so called volkosob - f1 gsd/russian wolf mix. and surely he (or she) is not too wild, look - he's on leash
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Antigo 07-05-2011, 8:00   #3
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All these dogs come from my kennel and are so-called !!!Mix!!!. Nothing in them allows to think about any "dance with wolf", so near in time. Rather not to give any chance to the lies and others stories. Better trust our knowledge about CSV and so be able to feel a illusion.
Or I am really a worse breeder, who doesn't know how to make the difference real CSV vs medium CSV !! Of course, I'm talking about MY dogs.

Then, about our breed Club (CBEI) : what's the law that should give us rights to force any breeder to DNA test his dogs ? What's the law that would give us rights to take off the pedigree of any dog ?

It's obvious this matter of facts were known when a kennel decides to breed Mutaras. Why didn't you do anything then ?? Did we, in France, said anything at the moments these Mutaras were accepted in shows and confirmed under the responsability of one of your judges ?
Same question about Hungarian CSV Club, now it's clear that some litters from "Crying Wolf" kennel are faked.
Same question about real doubts in Italy, concerning one famous kennel in this country. Any pedigree off ?

So, you agree the problem is real. Then, we should appreciate in helping in spite of being so quickly denied !
Slovac CSV breed Club could be the one to decide a common act face to FCI . Leaving alone the french CBEI to fight is too easy !! Problems exist here about two french kennels ; is it fair to claim all french breeders are spoiled ??

It should be useful to work in common for the wellfare of this breed, and for the futur. "Crying Wolf'" offspread with Sarloos or red genes is huge ; so many dogs are concerned, we have no time to loose in non-sense words in any country.
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Antigo 07-06-2011, 9:22   #4
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Then, about our breed Club (CBEI) : what's the law that should give us rights to force any breeder to DNA test his dogs ? What's the law that would give us rights to take off the pedigree of any dog ?
These should be some documents from CBEI. In Lithuania we have breeding rules that speak about such cases. And our kennel club (Lithuanian CBEI) - according to these rules - have a right for testing. If there are some important things for breeding (one breed or many of them), a breed club (like our CzW club in LT) can make a proposition to make it a rule. (For example, last friday there was a conference, where the representatives of the clubs gathered together and voted for some prepositions of other clubs. So now in LT if you want to breed a GSD you have to pass training exams, and if you want to breed some hunting dogs (laikas) you have to pass a working exam. )
Simple democracy.
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