British Kennel Club Recognition

[Maddie]

IMO, what is needed to form the basis for the KC registration and to build up relations within europe is trust, plain and simple. and to attain this, both breeders and owners need to be upfront about their motives, past, present and future.

i don't think "ruling out" owners of mongrels will change much, because it is the owners themselves and their attitudes that will be the driving force behind the recognition overall. obviously pure bred CsV's are an important and vital factor to it all, but i dont think its right the rule out others just because they haven't got a pure CsV.

i mean, take myself for example, i don't own a csv, therefore i have just as much of a standing as somebody who owns a mongrel, does that mean i am also not passionate about the breed?

[tupacs2legs]

Originally Posted by Maddie

IMO, what is needed to form the basis for the KC registration and to build up relations within europe is trust, plain and simple. and to attain this, both breeders and owners need to be upfront about their motives, past, present and future.

i don't think "ruling out" owners of mongrels will change much, because it is the owners themselves and their attitudes that will be the driving force behind the recognition overall. obviously pure bred CsV's are an important and vital factor to it all, but i dont think its right the rule out others just because they haven't got a pure CsV.

i mean, take myself for example, i don't own a csv, therefore i have just as much of a standing as somebody who owns a mongrel, does that mean i am also not passionate about the breed?

i think you took the post wrong....but tbf maddie it is important imo that the people behind this have the right motives(owning a mongrel and breeding mongrels are two different things imo),also if we want the dogs we already have here registered they can be no 'doubt' they are pure csv or it would be a 'mockery' and pointless.

[Maddie]

Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

i think you took the post wrong....but tbf maddie it is important imo that the people behind this have the right motives(owning a mongrel and breeding mongrels are two different things imo),also if we want the dogs we already have here registered they can be no 'doubt' they are pure csv or it would be a 'mockery' and pointless.

i agree totally about the owning a mongrel and breeding mongrels ... if a "breeder" is happy breeding mongrels and can't see the damage that they are causing then they have no right to form the basis of a breed that they are in effect ruining. whereas owners of mongrels may well own them for a number of reasons which doesn't include "wolfy looking".

i also agree with you when you say that there can be no doubt of the purity of the dogs that are registered for the KC recognition, as there needs to be solid and pure bloodlines present for this breed to move forward.

please dont take me wrong, im not trying to stand up for the breeders of mixes. i just dont think its right to rule out anybody else with involvement/a passion for the csv.

[tupacs2legs]

Originally Posted by Maddie

i agree totally about the owning a mongrel and breeding mongrels ... if a "breeder" is happy breeding mongrels and can't see the damage that they are causing then they have no right to form the basis of a breed that they are in effect ruining. whereas owners of mongrels may well own them for a number of reasons which doesn't include "wolfy looking".

i also agree with you when you say that there can be no doubt of the purity of the dogs that are registered for the KC recognition, as there needs to be solid and pure bloodlines present for this breed to move forward.

please dont take me wrong, im not trying to stand up for the breeders of mixes. i just dont think its right to rule out anybody else with involvement/a passion for the csv.

im with you on that maddie...but u know that

[Shadowlands]

Originally Posted by Maddie

IMO, what is needed to form the basis for the KC registration and to build up relations within europe is trust, plain and simple. and to attain this, both breeders and owners need to be upfront about their motives, past, present and future.

Well said Maddie, pity not many are like this just yet...

Unfortunately, the current 'breeders' past motives have been to mix to make money (they are not doing it to preserve or improve a breed, so what other reason is there?) - and they don't see anything wrong in that , so if they now want to breed pure, who can blame others for being a bit suspicious of their change of heart, and the true motives behind that?

[tupacs2legs]

Originally Posted by Shadowlands

Well said Maddie, pity not many are like this just yet...

Unfortunately, the current 'breeders' past motives have been to mix to make money (they are not doing it to preserve or improve a breed, so what other reason is there?) - and they don't see anything wrong in that , so if they now want to breed pure, who can blame others for being a bit suspicious of their change of heart, and the true motives behind that?

sad but true