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Old 29-12-2011, 05:06   #1
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Firstly Maddie please let me correct something I may have misconstrued. The only breeders I have asked about UK insurance for CSV are UK breeders as I thought this best & most logical. So when I refer to the answer earlier I received on insurance please be aware this is not the breeder of my puppy! Just was angry because I thought people could be more helpful to others in their orbit.

My CSV will come from a highly devoted breeder outside of the UK, the breeder continues to help me every step of the way & I know very well I could not be in better hands. Please be assured on this.

I do not want to discuss the dogs name nor the breeders with anyone, but I have researched breeders better than I have researched the CSV & found the one whom I feel the safest with. I would not deal any other way

I use the forum because it helps with language barriers & for getting different opinions, like yours which I have found helpful This does not mean I have not been well informed to date.

Yes Maddie what a tricky situation that catch 22 is. But like I said, there have been difficulties here in the UK that may have put many good breeders off?

Perhaps if the future breeder that has a heart for the CSV tries hard, then where there is a good will there will be a way. Breeders here in the UK should pay attention to what potential CSV owners want. That should be commitment, understanding good communication & above all a well bred & pure CSV.

To take the breed in vain? is it for you to do that? How stupid will you feel as a breeder when you have bitten off the hand that feeds you?

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Old 29-12-2011, 12:08   #2
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Yes Maddie what a tricky situation that catch 22 is. But like I said, there have been difficulties here in the UK that may have put many good breeders off?

Perhaps if the future breeder that has a heart for the CSV tries hard, then where there is a good will there will be a way. Breeders here in the UK should pay attention to what potential CSV owners want. That should be commitment, understanding good communication & above all a well bred & pure CSV.

To take the breed in vain? is it for you to do that? How stupid will you feel as a breeder when you have bitten off the hand that feeds you?
yes there have been difficulties here, and in some cases continues to be unfortunately. the problem lies that there are people here who care for the csv, but because we have this bad reputation as a country who prefers to mix, it makes life difficult for the genuine ones because breeders do not want to import fearing for the pups (and the hard work they put into them!) they send.

i think we all hope that in time these barriers will break down, and a new generation of honest breeders here in the UK will shine through in time to save the csv here.

good luck with your pup i hope you will post pictures!
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Old 30-12-2011, 01:12   #3
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i think we all hope that in time these barriers will break down, and a new generation of honest breeders here in the UK will shine through in time to save the csv here.

good luck with your pup i hope you will post pictures!
Amen to that!
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Old 02-01-2012, 14:15   #4
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Firstly Maddie please let me correct something I may have misconstrued. The only breeders I have asked about UK insurance for CSV are UK breeders as I thought this best & most logical. So when I refer to the answer earlier I received on insurance please be aware this is not the breeder of my puppy! Just was angry because I thought people could be more helpful to others in their orbit.

My CSV will come from a highly devoted breeder outside of the UK, the breeder continues to help me every step of the way & I know very well I could not be in better hands. Please be assured on this.

I do not want to discuss the dogs name nor the breeders with anyone, but I have researched breeders better than I have researched the CSV & found the one whom I feel the safest with. I would not deal any other way

I use the forum because it helps with language barriers & for getting different opinions, like yours which I have found helpful This does not mean I have not been well informed to date.

Yes Maddie what a tricky situation that catch 22 is. But like I said, there have been difficulties here in the UK that may have put many good breeders off?

Perhaps if the future breeder that has a heart for the CSV tries hard, then where there is a good will there will be a way. Breeders here in the UK should pay attention to what potential CSV owners want. That should be commitment, understanding good communication & above all a well bred & pure CSV.

To take the breed in vain? is it for you to do that? How stupid will you feel as a breeder when you have bitten off the hand that feeds you?
I am in a similar situation to you and am considering calling my new boy a GSD/husky cross for insurance purposes only. ( If I decide to insure him ) I just don't like the dishonesty of lying to my vet....
There is a future for this breed in the UK, best of luck
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Old 03-01-2012, 14:43   #5
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I am in a similar situation to you and am considering calling my new boy a GSD/husky cross for insurance purposes only. ( If I decide to insure him ) I just don't like the dishonesty of lying to my vet....
There is a future for this breed in the UK, best of luck
i am a vn by trade... u dont need to lie to your vet(tell them what your pup is),if u say he is a gsd cross on the 'records' u are not technically lying, as they are not 'recognised' here putting csv on the records is the same as saying your dog is a lesser spotted gruffalo...it means nowt,the insurance companys have not reviewed there policys when defra changed their rules.

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Old 03-01-2012, 18:15   #6
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I am in a similar situation to you and am considering calling my new boy a GSD/husky cross for insurance purposes only. ( If I decide to insure him ) I just don't like the dishonesty of lying to my vet....
There is a future for this breed in the UK, best of luck
Have to agree with Tupacs2legs, I'm not an insurance expert but you can be sure that they always look for any excuse not to pay out, lying to them would seem to give them a pretty big excuse. I'm sure GSD cross would be fine at least until the breed is recognised in the UK, it's not lying & your dog is legal after all (at least as far as DEFRA is concerned).
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Have to agree with Tupacs2legs, I'm not an insurance expert but you can be sure that they always look for any excuse not to pay out, lying to them would seem to give them a pretty big excuse. I'm sure GSD cross would be fine at least until the breed is recognised in the UK, it's not lying & your dog is legal after all (at least as far as DEFRA is concerned).
Agreed. Thanks both of you
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Thanks both of you, I agree
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