Nový klub v Anglii

Pavel · 20-02-2012, 19:56

Takže pro ty, kteří chtějí podpořit ČsV v UK :
www.vlcak.co.uk - skupinka majitelů, kteří chtějí chovat čistokrevné ČsV a snaží se o jejich uznání v UK.
http://csvclubofgb.forumotion.co.uk/forum - diskuzní skupina, u které je těžko identifikovat, komu patří. Ale podle sdělení chovatelů v UK je napojena např. na chovatele Collinse, o kterém je info v tomto fóru http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21402

admin · 20-02-2012, 21:07

I have one more question from one of the UK-owners who want to stay anonymous:

One of the Czech breeders advertising herself as representative of the Czech Breed Club is supporting the breeders of the mixes in UK.
It is true that you, Hanka sold the puppy to orkwolf? And thank to this you was made the administrator/moderator of the "club" consisted of the breeders of the mixes?

Saerithra · 20-02-2012, 22:04

Ať se dívám, jak se dívám na stránkách nevidím moderátora Hanka, ale Brita1 s fotkou vlčice Brity a ty články tam taky nevidím, ale to bude proto, že nejsem registrovaná.

RadeKKK · 21-02-2012, 13:27

Zajímavé je. že na inzerát zveřejněný jinde admin reaguje, ale když chci zadat inzerát tady, tak to nejde od prosince!
A ještě otázka, jak víte , že Hanka podporuje křížence? To hraničí s pomluvou!

admin · 21-02-2012, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadeKKK

Zajímavé je. že na inzerát zveřejněný jinde admin reaguje, ale když chci zadat inzerát tady, tak to nejde od prosince!

I do not understand what you mean. According to the ID you are the ArQeVa-breeder. The litter ad was published already long time ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadeKKK

A ještě otázka, jak víte , že Hanka podporuje křížence? To hraničí s pomluvou!

Pavel already mentioned topic about the UK "breeder":
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21402

And here one of his advertisings:
http://www.k9puppy.co.uk/PuppiesforS...herd18149.aspx
"...Mother 3/4 CSV, Father Pure Czech Wolf..."

Hanka · 23-02-2012, 11:46

Jiřko, kašli na ně....To nemá cenu. Jak ty stránky začaly fungovat, tak se tam hned hrnuly zaregistrovat. A když je admin vykmitnul, protože z toho nechce mít místo pomluv, tak to je najednou "špatná stránka"....
Vždyť je to pořád dokola....

Czechoslovakian Wolfdog Club GB · 24-02-2012, 10:02

Czechoslovakian Wolfdog Club of Great Britain has been an established group since 2011
We thank ‘wolf dog.org’ for giving the club chance to reply to the remarks made here.

We would like to inform readers that this tread on Wolfdog.org is one sided and only the opinion from members of the other group. The members of http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ are in the main non owners of newly imported dogs for example Shadowlands , Rona and others are all breeders / wolf dog org moderators / admins.
The founders of http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ ;- Patryk [Hedeon], Layla[Tupacs2legs] , Hannah Crook [Tassle] , Chris Hind [Pixie] own non FCI and mixed dogs bought from UK Breeders such as Mr Winder/ Mr Collins’orkwolf’ /Andre Tanner/Lee Church and many other members don’t own any Czechoslovakian wolf dogs and have no experience of them.

This group http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ is a secret group and not open to all. We wonder why is this? and as far as our Club is concerned this group has no credibility .

If said members of http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ insist they are promoting the breed why would they not include all known new dogs to the UK, is this not bias ? Surely it would be a benefit to this group to include all newly imported dogs?

Wouldn’t it of been more beneficial to unite than to slander and mis inform readers.
Does this not make the group http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ look stupid and extremely unprofessional?

Czechoslovakian Wolfdog Club of Great Britain was formed by new owners of FCI registered / imported dogs and members interested in owning the breed in the future, Our Club is not managed/run/linked or owned by any established breeder in the UK.

The Club aims are to unite and then pursue Kennel Club Registration of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs

The Club also aims to:

Promote the interests, welfare and responsible ownership of the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog in the United Kingdom, bring together owners and future breeders and facilitate the exchange of views and information on all subjects appertaining to the breed.

Keep a register of all litters eligible for registration until such time as the breed is recognised by the UK Kennel Club.

Keep accurate records of all health problems and temperament issues in the breed.

In addition to keeping a register of imported FCI registered Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs, necessary to obtain KC recognition, the Club is also keeping a register of UK bred dogs that will be eligible for KC registration once the breed has been recognised.

Our Club has a agreed Constitution and Code of Ethics and the Committee grows stronger every day.

We as a Club have more important roles to play in promoting pure breeding and development of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs in the UK. We have no time or desire to troll the internet and discredit other groups on forums and social networks. Not like some members of http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ and wolf dog.org who purport themselves as guardians of the breed that troll the internet causing friction and have done zero to promote the breed only within secret societies, resulting only to discredit themselves as guardians.

Surely Admin and Moderators of this site should be clearer on facts before exasperating such a thread and misrepresenting our Club.

Wouldn’t it be more prudent for the wolf dog.org admin on this tread to give a unbias reply?

We hope this corrects the misrepresentation of our Club and of course welcome support from all members.

21-02-2012, 13:27	#4
RadeKKK http://www.arqeva.cz/ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Zakšín - Doksy Posts: 389	Zajímavé je. že na inzerát zveřejněný jinde admin reaguje, ale když chci zadat inzerát tady, tak to nejde od prosince! A ještě otázka, jak víte , že Hanka podporuje křížence? To hraničí s pomluvou! __________________ Jiřina http://www.arqeva.cz Last edited by RadeKKK; 21-02-2012 at 13:31.

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20-02-2012, 19:56	#1
Pavel Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,190	Takže pro ty, kteří chtějí podpořit ČsV v UK : www.vlcak.co.uk - skupinka majitelů, kteří chtějí chovat čistokrevné ČsV a snaží se o jejich uznání v UK. http://csvclubofgb.forumotion.co.uk/forum - diskuzní skupina, u které je těžko identifikovat, komu patří. Ale podle sdělení chovatelů v UK je napojena např. na chovatele Collinse, o kterém je info v tomto fóru http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21402

20-02-2012, 22:04	#3
Saerithra Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 96	Ať se dívám, jak se dívám na stránkách nevidím moderátora Hanka, ale Brita1 s fotkou vlčice Brity a ty články tam taky nevidím, ale to bude proto, že nejsem registrovaná.

23-02-2012, 11:46	#6
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Jiřko, kašli na ně....To nemá cenu. Jak ty stránky začaly fungovat, tak se tam hned hrnuly zaregistrovat. A když je admin vykmitnul, protože z toho nechce mít místo pomluv, tak to je najednou "špatná stránka".... Vždyť je to pořád dokola....

24-02-2012, 10:02	#7
Czechoslovakian Wolfdog Club GB Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 7	Czechoslovakian Wolfdog Club of Great Britain has been an established group since 2011 We thank ‘wolf dog.org’ for giving the club chance to reply to the remarks made here. We would like to inform readers that this tread on Wolfdog.org is one sided and only the opinion from members of the other group. The members of http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ are in the main non owners of newly imported dogs for example Shadowlands , Rona and others are all breeders / wolf dog org moderators / admins. The founders of http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ ;- Patryk [Hedeon], Layla[Tupacs2legs] , Hannah Crook [Tassle] , Chris Hind [Pixie] own non FCI and mixed dogs bought from UK Breeders such as Mr Winder/ Mr Collins’orkwolf’ /Andre Tanner/Lee Church and many other members don’t own any Czechoslovakian wolf dogs and have no experience of them. This group http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ is a secret group and not open to all. We wonder why is this? and as far as our Club is concerned this group has no credibility . If said members of http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ insist they are promoting the breed why would they not include all known new dogs to the UK, is this not bias ? Surely it would be a benefit to this group to include all newly imported dogs? Wouldn’t it of been more beneficial to unite than to slander and mis inform readers. Does this not make the group http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ look stupid and extremely unprofessional? Czechoslovakian Wolfdog Club of Great Britain was formed by new owners of FCI registered / imported dogs and members interested in owning the breed in the future, Our Club is not managed/run/linked or owned by any established breeder in the UK. The Club aims are to unite and then pursue Kennel Club Registration of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs The Club also aims to: Promote the interests, welfare and responsible ownership of the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog in the United Kingdom, bring together owners and future breeders and facilitate the exchange of views and information on all subjects appertaining to the breed. Keep a register of all litters eligible for registration until such time as the breed is recognised by the UK Kennel Club. Keep accurate records of all health problems and temperament issues in the breed. In addition to keeping a register of imported FCI registered Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs, necessary to obtain KC recognition, the Club is also keeping a register of UK bred dogs that will be eligible for KC registration once the breed has been recognised. Our Club has a agreed Constitution and Code of Ethics and the Committee grows stronger every day. We as a Club have more important roles to play in promoting pure breeding and development of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs in the UK. We have no time or desire to troll the internet and discredit other groups on forums and social networks. Not like some members of http://www.vlcak.co.uk/ and wolf dog.org who purport themselves as guardians of the breed that troll the internet causing friction and have done zero to promote the breed only within secret societies, resulting only to discredit themselves as guardians. Surely Admin and Moderators of this site should be clearer on facts before exasperating such a thread and misrepresenting our Club. Wouldn’t it be more prudent for the wolf dog.org admin on this tread to give a unbias reply? We hope this corrects the misrepresentation of our Club and of course welcome support from all members.