Demoniak de la Louve Blanche

[koomak]

Me? Immature? You've filmed for 3 h and you are hiding you for this! you realize? ! 6 min to show "CLT classic character," your dogs are aggressive, it's you who should stop them again! ! So you accuse me of mistreating my dogs! !! It is you who have a problem! ! Leave us alone. . Mikael, I'm not so stupid as you think. . . . I know where my puppies go, I select my future owners much better than the breeders! !! Do not worry about that. . .

[julie9471]

You say that they are not pure and that they are the facts. What facts? You have NO proof and you allow to assault people. In fact it is you who have no normal behavior, it would doubtless be necessary to film you during hours to discuss it then. It is you, that will kill the race, strength you will eventually make the future owners run away who will not want of a race of dog where the world is filled with visionaries, and that will finish with not lof each at home, that it is the reality, I repeat, but we would really say a sect...

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by julie9471

You say that they are not pure and that they are the facts. What facts? You have NO proof and you allow to assault people. In fact it is you who have no normal behavior, it would doubtless be necessary to film you during hours to discuss it then. It is you, that will kill the race, strength you will eventually make the future owners run away who will not want of a race of dog where the world is filled with visionaries, and that will finish with not lof each at home, that it is the reality, I repeat, but we would really say a sect...

You seem a little bit confused, could you put that in normal words...

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by julie9471

You say that they are not pure and that they are the facts. What facts?

So than this is a CsV to, as I can not prove that it is not ????
http://www.wolfdog.org/site/dbase/d/5537

Thank god you are nor a breeder or a bonitation judge

Best regards / Mikael

[Juri Z.P.]

Koomak

You should try to attack me and you would see if my dogs know not react! ! Or come to my house without being invited. . . Ahahahah

your dogs are aggressive

:-)

Mikael, I'm not so stupid as you think. . . . I know where my puppies go, I select my future owners much better than the breeders!

why - you MUST - select the owner very good..better than normal?

[koomak]

JURI, Because the breeders make selections of very bad owners. . Many CLT are abandoned. .

[koomak]

Thank Julie, yes its a sect. . .

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by koomak

Me? Immature? You've filmed for 3 h and you are hiding you for this! you realize? ! 6 min to show "CLT classic character," your dogs are aggressive, it's you who should stop them again! ! So you accuse me of mistreating my dogs! !! It is you who have a problem! ! Leave us alone. . Mikael, I'm not so stupid as you think. . . . I know where my puppies go, I select my future owners much better than the breeders! !! Do not worry about that. . .

moore mixes? I believe they you not call and not breed like a CSV when they not are CSV.
yes you mas select a owners, when law have stright right about wild animals keeping. When they and are wild animals not dogs.
p.s.
agresive dogs in video- please put this moment, when I not saw this, only a poore shy animals and big % normals CSV.
and please LEAVE A CSV BREED alone, mixing this animal who have but not call they a CSV.

[wolfin]

Lithuanian owner and breeder read this who are in Fb and WD and have two opinions about this who make a muts owner:
first:
"This is not white, then black" syndrom

and second:

[Rona]

Originally Posted by koomak

I select my future owners much better than the breeders! !! Do not worry about that. . .

At least you're beeing honest with us!
Yes, I have no doubt you select the future owners of your pups better than you've selected the breeders of your dogs.

[Juri Z.P.]

wolfin:

yes you mas select a owners, when law have stright right about wild animals keeping. When they and are wild animals not dogs.

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by koomak

Mikael, I'm not so stupid as you think. . . . I know where my puppies go, I select my future owners much better than the breeders! !! Do not worry about that. . .

Really!?!?! One of the people came to you and asked if your dogs are pure. You told her YES!!!
Sophie - it is a DANGEROUS lie! I also think you are NOT a stupid person - and because of it I think that you know for 100% that dogs which you breed are not PURE Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs but unpredictable crosses. Therefore, I think that you are premeditated lying to puppy buyers by telling them your dogs are ClCs. And this is not behavior of a responsible breeder.

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by z Peronówki

Really!?!?! One of the people came to you and asked if your dogs are pure. You told her YES!!!
.

If im not mistaken she acted exactly like that also on Facebook, telling that her dogs are pure and even have DNA test, it really dont amaze me.

[leila]

Im just asking - this "breeders" want to begin a new line, breding wolves and csv (or something like this)?

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by leila

Im just asking - this "breeders" want to begin a new line, breding wolves and csv (or something like this)?

No, it is not the reason. They just wanted to be the "best breeders in the world". To have "the best dogs in the world".
But because they are laymen with the missing knowledge about genetic, breeding, lines and standard they were not able to breed any good dogs.
So they saw the best possiblity to reach they goals by using mixes. Just take a look who is breeding mixes now - all possible LOOSERS. Breeders who were not able to breed any good animals. NONE of the good breeders is using/breding mices....
But because they are loosers they also screw up their experiment. Instead of using pure EU-Wolves they used all possible mongrels and AWD-crosses.
So the dogs bred by Frank are 100% Saarloos - it means "nobody know what breeds are inside"....

It is why they chated the pedigrees and not grounded new lines in register. If Frank would put those dogs in register everybody would know that he is using mixes and not pure CsW.
By cheating of the pedigrees he was able to deceive people by saying them that those dogs looks wolfish because "Crying Wolf is such wolfish line". This lie would never work by us (Poland, Slovakia, Czech Republic, aso...) because we know many CW dogs and we know how they look. But French people have not lot experiences with Crying wolf dogs - they saw few of them; usually the Saarloos alike lines bred by Edith. So they believed in it...
So at least in France and Finland the cheatings worked as the "breeders" planned...

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by leila

Im just asking - this "breeders" want to begin a new line, breding wolves and csv (or something like this)?

if they begin- why falshing a documents? now in pedigree this animals are simply dogs with a crying wolfs blood, heavy dogs blood and not moore- if see a pedigree not found any wolfish dog from what they can have this anatomy who have now.
when begin new line people make a breed book and begin from zero, without falsh pedigree with others dogs names.
this is true? I think yes

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by wolfin

if they begin- why falshing a documents? now in pedigree this animals are simply dogs with a crying wolfs blood, heavy dogs blood and not moore- if see a pedigree not found any wolfish dog from what they can have this anatomy who have now.
when begin new line people make a breed book and begin from zero, without falsh pedigree with others dogs names.
this is true? I think yes

That's a really good logical point.. if you were going about trying to make a new line, then don't use fake pedigrees.. use real ones just like PdL's mixes.. then people reading the pedigree of your dog, who they might want to use for breeding, have the right information on health and other information...

A fake pedigree is more than fake purebred status, it's fake ancestry and all genetic, health, and temperament background.. completely useless to any serious breeder. Worse than having 'no pedigree'.