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Old 08-05-2012, 12:14   #1
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if your breeder won't cooperate with providing DNA, then perhaps the only thing to do is start over with new breeding stock?
Or turn to the local breed club or National Kennel Club for assistance and help? I'm sure the institutions have proper administrative tools to make certain members (breeders/owners) have their dogs tested by independant vets and labs!!!
Having been collecting memebership and show fees, clubs should now feel obliged to offer their honest members support in sorting out such problem. Especially, if they claim they follow FCI mission and goals!

I think that if half of the time and energy spent on blaming wd and Admin were spent on attempts to clear up the mess by institutins who are formally supposed to deal with such cases, everything would have been ironed out long time ago.
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Old 08-05-2012, 22:31   #2
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Or turn to the local breed club or National Kennel Club for assistance and help? I'm sure the institutions have proper administrative tools to make certain members (breeders/owners) have their dogs tested by independant vets and labs!!!
Having been collecting memebership and show fees, clubs should now feel obliged to offer their honest members support in sorting out such problem. Especially, if they claim they follow FCI mission and goals!
I wish they'ed have...
But look at France for instance, neither the club (if there is one) nor the French Kennel Club does anything against the Capiez, Domer etc. crosses.

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Old 09-05-2012, 07:12   #3
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I wish they'ed have...
But look at France for instance, neither the club (if there is one) nor the French Kennel Club does anything against the Capiez, Domer etc. crosses.
Michael, are you sure somebody has asked them to do something? Such organizations rarely act at their own inititive! They need formal requests which could give them a reason to act.

Some time ago I suggested here the international vlcak community should prepare and sign petition to the French Kennel Club and FCI to support the minority (as it seemed) of French owners and breeders who wanted to have the origin of their dogs explained. People from other countries declared help and support, but except ONE PM there was no response on the French side! Even Lorry, who should be most interested (!) told me off . Taking under consideration the number of posts which the French produced on the Big Bad Admin (showing they are able to write ) I have doubts if anybody has been seriously interested in solving the problem.

The same applies to the Hungarian KC. Has anybody formally requested their kynological, FCI affiliated authorities for help? If the answer is positive and the club did nothing... that's too bad!
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Old 09-05-2012, 21:08   #4
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I inform you about the fact that our planned programs and the announced dog shows will be held. We accept additional entries for Komárom International Dogshow. The entry deadline of the exhibition is extended until 15 May . In connection with the additional function and services of the MEOE I will inform you next week.

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Some time ago I suggested here the international vlcak community should prepare and sign petition to the French Kennel Club and FCI to support the minority (as it seemed) of French owners and breeders who wanted to have the origin of their dogs explained. People from other countries declared help and support, but except ONE PM there was no response on the French side! Even Lorry, who should be most interested (!) told me off . Taking under consideration the number of posts which the French produced on the Big Bad Admin (showing they are able to write ) I have doubts if anybody has been seriously interested in solving the problem.
That's exactly what i mean, Rona.
The initial demand must come from the French side.
Nothing so far...
Ducking away or lack of interest, i don't know.

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2012. may 15 the Hungarian Kennel Club's pedigreeing stopped existing. If anyone has questions, I will gladly inform them about it.
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So...there is no way to get pedigrees for dogs in Hungary anymore? Are people still trying to solve the problem?
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Old 13-06-2012, 19:14   #8
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Legally, there is no way.
I agree with it, many false datas and papers are made in Hungary at the Kennel Club. The pedigreeing stopped because there was the lack of pedigreeing laws, the lack of bonitation, false HD datas. Anyone who bought puppies from Hungary and has no pedigree will not get any in the future, ask for a refund at the breeders.
We have no bonitation in Hungary either, because I don't agree with the other two Hungarian breeders. We tried to make a pedigreeing law, but we couldn't find partners, as everyone was objecting to it. That's why we make the bonitation in Slovakia.

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