Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs-Australia

Ligerwolve2 · 11-12-2012, 14:01

So called Czech Shepherds LMAO. ROFL.

Ligerwolve2 · 11-12-2012, 14:08

You would know I emailed the breeder I said so myself on DOL. I also emailed when they contacted ME about the litter.

Here is my email:

Hi XXXX

Thank you for letting me know about your litter.

Id like to ask you a couple of questions.

What health tests have the parents had?

Are the parents available to view?

Also what screening process are you using for puppy buyers?

Do you have both bitches and dogs available?

Will they be desexed or not?

Sorry to be upfront but its important information before buying a pup.

Regards.

As you can see I never asked for a pup. Had he bothered to reply and give reasonable answers that is what I would have told people. People who may have wanted a pup. However no one that asked me bothered because his behaviour screams BYB. Im glad they didnt either.

11-12-2012, 14:24

There is no such thing as a Czechoslocakian Shepherd, end of story. I know German Shepherds were at one point called Alsation Wolfdogs. But a German Shepherd is now more correctly a dog as there is no recent wolf heritage in them, well not as recent as CzW anyway.

I haven't asked for photos, but I saw people on the forums have asked multiple times and you never produced them. Again, seems fishy. But why are you so private? What are you hiding?

I'm simply bringing this up as you quite obviously are liening or making out you owned something that was related to Czw, when its wasn't. If you're going to do that, atleast don't call them a Czechoslocakian Shepherd, when Czechoslocakian Shepherds are known to be what misleading breeders call they're German shepherds that were born in former Czechoslovakia. You claim they have czw in them, which is most likely lies, not only because I know what Czechoslocakian Shepherds are, but because there is no record of the military supplying czw stock to breeders, so they could basically breed them back to German Shepherds thus basically creating German shepherds again.

Also regarding the email you sent to the breeder, if I'd been him I would of ignored you as well. You asked if the pups would be desexed! obviously you know nothing about the breed, the best time to bring home a pup is 8 weeks, as this is when they are at a good age to leave their parents and settle in to a new family. If they leave later than that, you'll have all sorts of fitting in problems. We got our male at 8 weeks and our female at 4 months and I can tell you now, if we hadn't already had our male there, she would not of fitted in well at all, atleast not In the short term. So to suggest that the breeder has the pups desexed before 8 weeks clearly shows how ignorant and irresponsible you are. Good thing you were ignored.

Ligerwolve2 · 11-12-2012, 14:39

ROFL. So basically Im reading "I cant answer any questions of your so I will attack your dog even though you are not breeding her and not relevant to this discussion at all but I need desperately to redirect".

If you knew anything about breeding you would know SOME breeders do desex before 8 weeks so it is absolutely important to establish this before enquiring after a pup. Non of my dogs have been desexed at 8 weeks and you pointing the finger only shows how desperate you are.

You could at least enquire what my point of view is before accusing me of it LOL.

I bet you are Mystic. Funny they only joined after I joined in here and thats the only post.

Oh and your wrong I have posted photos of her on DOL and my FB. Perhaps you ought to get some kind of facts.

I have been upfront about my dog.

I see no point discussing her further. Me owning her has nothing to do with this breeder in the slightest. STAY ON TOPIC!!! Im allowed to own different breeds by the way

I still hope the actual breeder comes on here and clears things up. Id still like to believe its just all some sort of misunderstanding and they do infact care. You are only making me believe everyone else here is right and something not quite right is going on here.

Ligerwolve2 · 11-12-2012, 14:45

Oh and incase anyone is actually interested MY DOG LOOKS NOTHING LIKE A CZW AND IT WAS ONLY THE SIMILARITY IN BEHAVIOUR THAT IM LOOKING FOR.

SHE IS NOT A CZW OR A CROSS OF.

THE DOGS THAT WERE USED WERE FAR REMOVED AND OTHER BREEDS USED.

THEY WERE BRED TO WORK WORK WORK AND BE INDEPENDANT ENOUGH IN PARTICULAR SITUTIONS.

ITS A ONE OFF THAT I GOT HER AND I WILL NOT DEFAME THE PERSON WHO GOT HER TO ME SO YOU WILL NEVER GET ANY MORE THAN THAT FROM ME.

SHE IS NOT A GSD.

Hope that clears it all up for everyone not that its relevant. I simply was looking for a dog like her years ago and the CzW is the closest (which makes sense) to her personality which is why I would like one.

I have zero interest in cross breds. I do not care what the dog looks like. Its the temp. Im after.

11-12-2012, 22:13

The fact you even needed to ask if they would be desexed shows complete ignorance. No responsible vet would desex a pup before 8 weeks. Even EAD which is normally between 8-12 weeks is a very rare practise in private clinics, and it should be taken with great caution.

I'm not breeding either, yet you ask questions. Stop using that as an excuse. You can see the pedigree of my dogs, lets see the pedigree of yours. Post the pedigree and the photos as an attachment if you have nothing to hide.

Also forget about the whole "they have csv foundation stock in them", CZECHOSLOCAKIAN SHEPHERDS ARE NOTHING BUT AN INCORRECT TERM FOR GERMAN SHEPHERDS. Like I said, there is no record of the military giving csv stock to breeders so they can breed them back to German Shepherds. So unless you can prove that, it looks like your lying.

You ask questions about my Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs? I'll ask questions about your German shepherd who you liked to call a wolfdog. If there was something not quite right going on here, you'd get me saying "I'm not telling you any information, it's private. I won't defame the breeder." But clearly I'm not trying to hide anything like you.

We have history with breeding, showing and animal welfare. Everything the breeder did was proper. However expirience tells me any breeder that's very private and demands owners to not tell any information about their dogs, is not a reputable breeder.

*The questions of yours that I've ignored, are stupid questions. You asked me what the PTS rate is currently for dogs in Australia, how is that relevant to me?

Ligerwolve2 · 11-12-2012, 22:35

No. You want to discuss my dog start a thread. Your redirection isnt going to work here anymore.

Frankly I dont care if you think Im lying.

Do your dogs have FCI pedigree certificate? Do the parents?

Ligerwolve2 · 11-12-2012, 22:38

Oh and I worked in the animal industry for many years. Vets absoultely will desex at 8 weeks.

Yes your are right in that I personally think its not good for large breeds to be desexed before 12 months. However its considered a personal view. There is plenty of arguements for and against.

So you my friend are incorrect. Vets will desex at 8 weeks. Many registered breeders choose to do this. Not me so I like to ask.

11-12-2012, 14:24	#3
Wolves Guest Posts: n/a	There is no such thing as a Czechoslocakian Shepherd, end of story. I know German Shepherds were at one point called Alsation Wolfdogs. But a German Shepherd is now more correctly a dog as there is no recent wolf heritage in them, well not as recent as CzW anyway. I haven't asked for photos, but I saw people on the forums have asked multiple times and you never produced them. Again, seems fishy. But why are you so private? What are you hiding? I'm simply bringing this up as you quite obviously are liening or making out you owned something that was related to Czw, when its wasn't. If you're going to do that, atleast don't call them a Czechoslocakian Shepherd, when Czechoslocakian Shepherds are known to be what misleading breeders call they're German shepherds that were born in former Czechoslovakia. You claim they have czw in them, which is most likely lies, not only because I know what Czechoslocakian Shepherds are, but because there is no record of the military supplying czw stock to breeders, so they could basically breed them back to German Shepherds thus basically creating German shepherds again. Also regarding the email you sent to the breeder, if I'd been him I would of ignored you as well. You asked if the pups would be desexed! obviously you know nothing about the breed, the best time to bring home a pup is 8 weeks, as this is when they are at a good age to leave their parents and settle in to a new family. If they leave later than that, you'll have all sorts of fitting in problems. We got our male at 8 weeks and our female at 4 months and I can tell you now, if we hadn't already had our male there, she would not of fitted in well at all, atleast not In the short term. So to suggest that the breeder has the pups desexed before 8 weeks clearly shows how ignorant and irresponsible you are. Good thing you were ignored. Last edited by Wolves; 11-12-2012 at 14:26.

11-12-2012, 22:13	#6
Wolves Guest Posts: n/a	The fact you even needed to ask if they would be desexed shows complete ignorance. No responsible vet would desex a pup before 8 weeks. Even EAD which is normally between 8-12 weeks is a very rare practise in private clinics, and it should be taken with great caution. I'm not breeding either, yet you ask questions. Stop using that as an excuse. You can see the pedigree of my dogs, lets see the pedigree of yours. Post the pedigree and the photos as an attachment if you have nothing to hide. Also forget about the whole "they have csv foundation stock in them", CZECHOSLOCAKIAN SHEPHERDS ARE NOTHING BUT AN INCORRECT TERM FOR GERMAN SHEPHERDS. Like I said, there is no record of the military giving csv stock to breeders so they can breed them back to German Shepherds. So unless you can prove that, it looks like your lying. You ask questions about my Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs? I'll ask questions about your German shepherd who you liked to call a wolfdog. If there was something not quite right going on here, you'd get me saying "I'm not telling you any information, it's private. I won't defame the breeder." But clearly I'm not trying to hide anything like you. We have history with breeding, showing and animal welfare. Everything the breeder did was proper. However expirience tells me any breeder that's very private and demands owners to not tell any information about their dogs, is not a reputable breeder. The questions of yours that I've ignored, are stupid questions. You asked me what the PTS rate is currently for dogs in Australia, how is that relevant to me? Last edited by Wolves; 11-12-2012 at 22:38.*

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11-12-2012, 14:01	#1
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	So called Czech Shepherds LMAO. ROFL.

11-12-2012, 14:08	#2
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	You would know I emailed the breeder I said so myself on DOL. I also emailed when they contacted ME about the litter. Here is my email: Hi XXXX Thank you for letting me know about your litter. Id like to ask you a couple of questions. What health tests have the parents had? Are the parents available to view? Also what screening process are you using for puppy buyers? Do you have both bitches and dogs available? Will they be desexed or not? Sorry to be upfront but its important information before buying a pup. Regards. As you can see I never asked for a pup. Had he bothered to reply and give reasonable answers that is what I would have told people. People who may have wanted a pup. However no one that asked me bothered because his behaviour screams BYB. Im glad they didnt either.

11-12-2012, 14:39	#4
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	ROFL. So basically Im reading "I cant answer any questions of your so I will attack your dog even though you are not breeding her and not relevant to this discussion at all but I need desperately to redirect". If you knew anything about breeding you would know SOME breeders do desex before 8 weeks so it is absolutely important to establish this before enquiring after a pup. Non of my dogs have been desexed at 8 weeks and you pointing the finger only shows how desperate you are. You could at least enquire what my point of view is before accusing me of it LOL. I bet you are Mystic. Funny they only joined after I joined in here and thats the only post. Oh and your wrong I have posted photos of her on DOL and my FB. Perhaps you ought to get some kind of facts. I have been upfront about my dog. I see no point discussing her further. Me owning her has nothing to do with this breeder in the slightest. STAY ON TOPIC!!! Im allowed to own different breeds by the way I still hope the actual breeder comes on here and clears things up. Id still like to believe its just all some sort of misunderstanding and they do infact care. You are only making me believe everyone else here is right and something not quite right is going on here.

11-12-2012, 14:45	#5
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	Oh and incase anyone is actually interested MY DOG LOOKS NOTHING LIKE A CZW AND IT WAS ONLY THE SIMILARITY IN BEHAVIOUR THAT IM LOOKING FOR. SHE IS NOT A CZW OR A CROSS OF. THE DOGS THAT WERE USED WERE FAR REMOVED AND OTHER BREEDS USED. THEY WERE BRED TO WORK WORK WORK AND BE INDEPENDANT ENOUGH IN PARTICULAR SITUTIONS. ITS A ONE OFF THAT I GOT HER AND I WILL NOT DEFAME THE PERSON WHO GOT HER TO ME SO YOU WILL NEVER GET ANY MORE THAN THAT FROM ME. SHE IS NOT A GSD. Hope that clears it all up for everyone not that its relevant. I simply was looking for a dog like her years ago and the CzW is the closest (which makes sense) to her personality which is why I would like one. I have zero interest in cross breds. I do not care what the dog looks like. Its the temp. Im after.

11-12-2012, 22:35	#7
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	No. You want to discuss my dog start a thread. Your redirection isnt going to work here anymore. Frankly I dont care if you think Im lying. Do your dogs have FCI pedigree certificate? Do the parents?

11-12-2012, 22:38	#8
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	Oh and I worked in the animal industry for many years. Vets absoultely will desex at 8 weeks. Yes your are right in that I personally think its not good for large breeds to be desexed before 12 months. However its considered a personal view. There is plenty of arguements for and against. So you my friend are incorrect. Vets will desex at 8 weeks. Many registered breeders choose to do this. Not me so I like to ask.