Puppy prices

[Vaiva]

I just do not understand one thing - if we speak about how expensive it is to breed and so sad nobody wants to pay 3000 euros for a puppy... Nobody forces to breed Yes, breeding is a very expensive (in many meanings, not only money) hobby, it does not have to "pay"...
And it is totally unfair to count the price of a female, of her food, vaccinations, health tests - and then to "include" it to the puppy price

[Morian]

vaiva, i think this calculation was made just to understand better why the price is 1000, but not much less or much more and as you can see it shows very clear that breeding of csv can't be commercial in cases of "family breeder", hobby etc.

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by Morian

vaiva, i think this calculation was made just to understand better why the price is 1000, but not much less or much more and as you can see it shows very clear that breeding of csv can't be commercial in cases of "family breeder", hobby etc.

But the calculation really does not show anything
Also doesn't explain the different prices.

[Morian]

then explain please why do you want 1000 eur for your pups?

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by Morian

then explain please why do you want 1000 eur for your pups?

What makes you think I want 1000 euro per pup?
I do not count the food of my dog, or vaccination, or health tests - I would have these expenses without breeding too. I don't even count the traveling to male - I take it as a nice trip and much fun.

[Morian]

no-no, it was just an idea
but then you must give your pups for free, isn't it?

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by Morian

no-no, it was just an idea
but then you must give your pups for free, isn't it?

No, but I do not tell stories that puppy costs this amount of money, because HD tests (that you make once in dog's life and it costs... 70 euro ) are expensive, or because I had to feed my female (30 more euros a month, and this is feeding Orijen - at the moment it is the best dry food I can find in LT), or similar. I would do the same things with my dog, no matter if it is a breeding dog, or a mix from a shelter.
Yes, let's be fair and say that a breeder also needs a little "payback" for his hard work, for all the letters he answered (explaining obvious things for people, who simply desided you have nothing else to do), for future consultations any time of the day or night, if a new puppy owner faces a problem (this is in all the agreements, isn't it?), also maybe breeder had to take some free days from work (and was not payed for this time) to take care of the puppies. Also if puppies do not live in a kennel, but at home, same room with the family, you may need some rapair works, don't you?
It is not a shame to say "yes, the puppy costs THIS amount of money, because I need a little payback for my hard work" It is a shame to lie that this is how much a puppy costs - then why do puppies without pedigrees cost much less? (I am speaking not about wolfdogs, but other breeds)

[martiou07]

Originally Posted by Morian

then explain please why do you want 1000 eur for your pups?

Hello,

for my part, why 1000 euros, quite simply because, is the price that this sells in France, the market of the pedigree dog in France is raised, one cannot sell off our pups either, that will think people with large price differences between such or such breeding?

can be they would think qu' there is a latent defect ?

[Morian]

Originally Posted by martiou07

Hello,

for my part, why 1000 euros, quite simply because, is the price that this sells in France, the market of the pedigree dog in France is raised, one cannot sell off our pups either, that will think people with large price differences between such or such breeding?

can be they would think qu' there is a latent defect ?

i guess that it was the main question of this topic

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by martiou07

Hello,

for my part, why 1000 euros, quite simply because, is the price that this sells in France, the market of the pedigree dog in France is raised, one cannot sell off our pups either, that will think people with large price differences between such or such breeding?

can be they would think qu' there is a latent defect ?

Aaa, so you would gladly give puppies for free, but you are simply forced to take 1000 euro for a puppy just because in other case people would think your dogs are sick or smth? I promise, I will not think your dogs have letal defects. Will you give me a puppy? As a gift?

[martiou07]

Originally Posted by Vaiva

Aaa, so you would gladly give puppies for free, but you are simply forced to take 1000 euro for a puppy just because in other case people would think your dogs are sick or smth? I promise, I will not think your dogs have letal defects. Will you give me a puppy? As a gift?

me I am always ready to discuss the price of my pups:

why?

For other country, I know well that the voyage represents a cost.

A family being able to bring a splendid life to my baby but not having the means, for me this is not a problem, I can to re-examine the price, because I think above all of the good future being of my pups...

[martiou07]

Originally Posted by Vaiva

Will you give me a puppy? As a gift?

a gift, not , I want nevertheless of course to refund my expenses

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by martiou07

A family being able to bring a splendid life to my baby but not having the means, for me this is not a problem, I can to re-examine the price, because I think above all of the good future being of my pups...

Yes, this is a great attitude

[martiou07]

to be honest with you (if other French reads that, they will not be happy… ) , on a range with 5 pups on average, any expenses included/understood (vaccines, electronic chip, pedigree, covered….), that returns to approximately 300-400 euros by pup

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by martiou07

to be honest with you (if other French reads that, they will not be happy… ) , on a range with 5 pups on average, any expenses included/understood (vaccines, electronic chip, pedigree, covered….), that returns to approximately 300-400 euros by pup

I am sure, that in countries with lower standarts of life, the expenses are even smaller. But still - it is not a shame for a breeder to ask for little payment too (not earning for living, of course )

[Morian]

i undersand that we're starting another idle talk, but... i'm still curious, why do you ask for your

Originally Posted by Vaiva

hard work, for all the letters he answered <...>, for future consultations any time of the day or night <...> some rapair works

certain amount of money, not less and not more. why not 5000 for example?

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by Morian

i undersand that we're starting another idle talk, but... i'm still curious, why do you ask for your



certain amount of money, not less and not more. why not 5000 for example?

How do you know I do not ask 5000 euro?
Everyone is free to decide upon his price. I do not understand why some dogs cost 600 euro and some 2500. (funny thing it is not about quality of dog )

[Morian]

Originally Posted by Vaiva

I do not understand why some dogs cost 600 euro and some 2500. (funny thing it is not about quality of dog )

this was the question

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by Vaiva

I do not understand why some dogs cost 600 euro and some 2500. (funny thing it is not about quality of dog )

I think it is mostly about which country the breeder lives in, 600 Euro might be OK in for example Poland and 2000 Euro might be OK in USA or Scandinavia

But yes 2500 Euro is not a OK price for any normal Cs Vlcak litter I think.

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Swedish example on dog price (2010-12)

Yorkshire Terrier puppy 1400 Euro

>>>http://www.blocket.se/stockholm/York....htm?ca=11&w=1

English Bulldog puppy 2500 Euro

>>>http://www.blocket.se/stockholm/Enge....htm?ca=11&w=1

Chihuahua 1200 Euro

>>>http://www.blocket.se/stockholm/Chih....htm?ca=11&w=1

Best regards / Mikael

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by Mikael

Swedish example on dog price (2010-12)

Yorkshire Terrier puppy 1400 Euro >>>

http://www.blocket.se/stockholm/York....htm?ca=11&w=1

English Bulldag puppy 2500 Euro

>>>http://www.blocket.se/stockholm/Enge....htm?ca=11&w=1

Chihuahua 1200 Euro >>>

http://www.blocket.se/stockholm/Chih....htm?ca=11&w=1

Best regards / Mikael

Not much different from prices in Lithuania...