Crying Wolf - kennel - Page 3

furyos · 12-12-2008, 01:42

if yu look better in blood line dear martiou yu can note that our breed is A COSANGUINITY selection .. and then if yu look better as better the work in marriage is not like yur work .. put female and a male to breed near a friend .... a type is the work in a selection .. and really y m so curious to see yur in few months .... sure no consanguinity .. but yu can try with a FROG and sure yu have perhaps more chance to fix a type !!!!! y think it's enought to play with yu young and big breeder .... y hope cross yur litter in dig show to see their results and see if their are very nice(or best near the standard) and healthy ....YUR ONLY CHANCE .. to have the male from margo's kennel .. the rest ... HUM yur female is not really a nice female .. just a female for family life ... (good things but that 'all ..)and when y see yur big price(1200 euros ) for this y think YU ARE A REAL BUSINESS MAN !!!!! best reagards ....

martiou07 · 12-12-2008, 01:58

still not of answer, you are a champion to avoid the questions

business man ????? me ???????

, not just impassioned

in connection with the small ones of my bitch, consanguinity is made in a considered way

http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...7818&DOG2=7473

5.02 ....%

look at, but I believe that you are unable to include/understand all that

And please, why ever you attack my dogs when some of my questions bothers you because your incapacity to reply?

you understand ?????

my female: A67K1M3OdP3 : therefore, for you, a bitch which should not reproduce??

For the france: I remind to you that this range is the only one which is currently proposed where the parents have all the 2 the bonitation and the radios
thus your remarks ...... and after you speak about jealousy .......

furyos · 12-12-2008, 02:31

hi again .martiou .... where yu find that y attack yur dogs??? it's just an evidence ..(and please yu write me a private mail to explain bad things from merlin ..ossa ..etc ..

stop please this hypocrite

attitude on this public topic and in private yu write bad words ...)hum the evidence is that yu say "y m a passionned" .. but yu do just 5 dogshows and on all juges give yu list of default for yur female .. bonitation too (tail too long /bad behaviour/p3/ dysplasy C...etc ..) and outhout this yu say :"y m professional and y breeding".. BUT THE TRUTH (and all french people know that.. yu buy yur female 1 euro ...one male (apache)100euros (and yu try to do last year a mariage with him.. and he 's from a father (benny) and his daughter( kiloute).. A REAL CONSANGUINITY THIS !!!! .. and now yu sale yur pupps like good and serious kennel who do dog show (national and international)have female A/B or A:A .... and yu are sure to have THE SCIENCE TO BREEDING !!!!! really y don't thing yu are the person who can learn to me(or to edit) something good ....but SURE if y do comptability .. yu are very good ..5 dog show ...350euros/ female 1 euros .. 5 pupps =5x1200euros =6000euros .. hum good rentability .... if yu look in origin country price are not so strong and better quality that yurs ... and if yu look french kennels they pay taxes and yu not !!!!! THIS IS THE DIFFENRENCE !!!!! and the truth

...good reflexions and best regards ... f

martiou07 · 12-12-2008, 02:36

you do not know absolutely anything in connection with my dogs…. and my answer, like d' practice, the discution is impossible with you, you still answer with dimensions….

furyos · 12-12-2008, 02:39

......sure martiou ......discution to discredite someone is so easy and yu are" the specialist ".. not surprise to do the same asq soon as YU DO THAT FIRST .......if one day yu stop this attitude .... perhaps y can study to change too .. but .....

martiou07 · 12-12-2008, 02:44

why simply explain you not that you are unable to answer your choices on your selection ?????

good now that my opinion is made on your subject, i would like to know the answer of Mrs Molnar, is with it that i put this question

furyos · 12-12-2008, 02:52

WHO YU ARE to want this !!!! do yu think really any breeder give yu their intentions just because yu want an answer to yur discrdites !!!! y think yu play in a bad place .. yu can go at school before to learn good education first .... best regards .. f

jasmine · 12-12-2008, 10:35

hmmmmm I realy don't understand why should I justify myself to somebody who has got only 1 dog and/or just having his first litter............................
A few years later, when you have got enough experienses and knowledge about this breed and breeding , and we could see your pups...than we could talk...untill...I'm so sorry to say....NOT YOU ARE THE RIGHT PERSON WHO COULD CRITIZES ME.......

martiou07 · 12-12-2008, 10:55

it is well damage Mrs Molnar, which I include/understand, you have any explanation to given in connection with your selection, just like your friend Furyos

thus you do not astonish that your work is so often shown finger

for information: i worked during 2 years in a refuge SPA in Switzerland, in Vevey, i was trainee with French-speaking Switzerland school of dog guides blind man, and i was guard of one of most famous of the breedings of cavalier king Charles in France during 5 years, therefore yes in the world of the dog wolf, I launch out, that now because i have wanted to already know the front race sufficiently, but as regards the selection, I am able to include/understand, but you, you in summers incompetent on your own work ..................

jasmine · 12-12-2008, 11:09

incompetent??? hahahahaha
just enough to see the big special showresults the last two years.......and my dogs are imported to Slovakia and Czeh Rep...for breeding...
yees.....I'm totaly incompetent...hahahahaha

martiou07 · 12-12-2008, 11:14

I do not speak about your dog but just of your incompetence to explain you on your work of selection !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

read again, and say me where I attact your dogs Mrs Molnar?????!!!!!!!!! I just posed you questions, the same ones to which Furyos forever known to answer on the French forum............

and just like your friend, you answer only what arranges you to include/understand, cheer!!!!

for me, this discution is finished, I am able to make me my opinion in your connection ........................

jasmine · 12-12-2008, 11:23

hey...you are always attact Frank and me and our dogs.........
and I have got bad attitude?????????
yees......everybody could hear and see just what they want................
discussion is over

martiou07 · 12-12-2008, 12:28

http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...ogs&country=SK

to finish Mrs Molnar, could is you tell me why Enzo Crying Wolf the only dog male authorized to reproduce in slovaquie??? thus your results in expos are a thing but your production is another

jasmine · 12-12-2008, 12:32

hmmmm if you would look after more precaisly... you could find more breeding dogs ,male and female with bonitacio in SK and CzRep...
but you don't care the facts, your aim only the shit dropping like some of your "friends"

elf · 12-12-2008, 12:37

No answers as excepted (it's long time I did not except anymore for Frank as I know now he doesn't have enough knowledges).

Edit, I'm working with French first national research center, currently on new cognitive learning models, formerly working on Gene Therapy on a genes insertion positioning optimisation.

martiou07 · 12-12-2008, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasmine

hmmmm if you would look after more precaisly... you could find more breeding dogs ,male and female with bonitacio in SK and CzRep...
but you don't care the facts, your aim only the shit dropping like some of your "friends"

cheer Mrs Molnar for this superb answer!!!!
and for Czech Republic : just Lupus Crying Wolf
why ??????? i don't understand ??????

http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...ogs&country=CZ

jasmine · 12-12-2008, 12:50

HMMM you have got interesting job...but why did you write it me?
or are you interested in my "knowledge"????
I'm agricultural ingeniour,main profily is reproduction, now I just studee psycholigy,I was working with socialization research in ELTE University ,main trainer in search and rescue dog team in Hungary,member in curatorium in Foundation for Hungarian National breeds..............
And I surly know that there are a lot of things what I should studee more : ))))))))))

jasmine · 12-12-2008, 12:51

try to find more...because there are !!!!!!

jasmine · 12-12-2008, 12:55

and another but important things: every country has got the own breeding rules.....as my country and my klub has got as well...........we have caracter test (shouting, the dog must be touchable,protection work together with owner),other part is the judgment of the dog (exteriour), need two excelent showresults and HD results. Whithout any of them I couldn't get pedigree for the pups......
My klub accept just the hungarian "bonitacio"

elf · 12-12-2008, 13:13

Quote:

HMMM you have got interesting job...but why did you write it me?
or are you interested in my "knowledge"????

You wrote this: "NOT YOU ARE THE RIGHT PERSON WHO COULD CRITIZES ME....... "... and now wonder why

?

Quote:

I'm agricultural ingeniour,main profily is reproduction

So you have no excuses, you know well the damage of high consanguinity, especially in this breed.
And you also know probabilistic models for HD propagation, I was lately reading HD propagation models against Markov chain, it's just working. So once again no excuse to mate bad HD pedigree dogs sir & dame. So no, I don't understand you, but there are maybe parts I don't understand so feel free to email me and explain to me when you would have time

.

12-12-2008, 01:58	#42
martiou07 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: France Posts: 1,986	still not of answer, you are a champion to avoid the questions business man ????? me ??????? , not just impassioned in connection with the small ones of my bitch, consanguinity is made in a considered way http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...7818&DOG2=7473 5.02 ....% look at, but I believe that you are unable to include/understand all that And please, why ever you attack my dogs when some of my questions bothers you because your incapacity to reply? you understand ????? my female: A67K1M3OdP3 : therefore, for you, a bitch which should not reproduce?? For the france: I remind to you that this range is the only one which is currently proposed where the parents have all the 2 the bonitation and the radios thus your remarks ...... and after you speak about jealousy ....... __________________ Last edited by martiou07; 12-12-2008 at 02:29.

12-12-2008, 02:36	#44
martiou07 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: France Posts: 1,986	you do not know absolutely anything in connection with my dogs…. and my answer, like d' practice, the discution is impossible with you, you still answer with dimensions…. __________________

12-12-2008, 02:44	#46
martiou07 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: France Posts: 1,986	why simply explain you not that you are unable to answer your choices on your selection ????? good now that my opinion is made on your subject, i would like to know the answer of Mrs Molnar, is with it that i put this question __________________

12-12-2008, 10:55	#49
martiou07 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: France Posts: 1,986	it is well damage Mrs Molnar, which I include/understand, you have any explanation to given in connection with your selection, just like your friend Furyos thus you do not astonish that your work is so often shown finger for information: i worked during 2 years in a refuge SPA in Switzerland, in Vevey, i was trainee with French-speaking Switzerland school of dog guides blind man, and i was guard of one of most famous of the breedings of cavalier king Charles in France during 5 years, therefore yes in the world of the dog wolf, I launch out, that now because i have wanted to already know the front race sufficiently, but as regards the selection, I am able to include/understand, but you, you in summers incompetent on your own work .................. __________________ Last edited by martiou07; 12-12-2008 at 11:06.

12-12-2008, 11:14	#51
martiou07 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: France Posts: 1,986	I do not speak about your dog but just of your incompetence to explain you on your work of selection !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! read again, and say me where I attact your dogs Mrs Molnar?????!!!!!!!!! I just posed you questions, the same ones to which Furyos forever known to answer on the French forum............ and just like your friend, you answer only what arranges you to include/understand, cheer!!!! for me, this discution is finished, I am able to make me my opinion in your connection ........................ __________________ Last edited by martiou07; 12-12-2008 at 11:31.

12-12-2008, 01:42	#41
furyos Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 729	if yu look better in blood line dear martiou yu can note that our breed is A COSANGUINITY selection .. and then if yu look better as better the work in marriage is not like yur work .. put female and a male to breed near a friend .... a type is the work in a selection .. and really y m so curious to see yur in few months .... sure no consanguinity .. but yu can try with a FROG and sure yu have perhaps more chance to fix a type !!!!! y think it's enought to play with yu young and big breeder .... y hope cross yur litter in dig show to see their results and see if their are very nice(or best near the standard) and healthy ....YUR ONLY CHANCE .. to have the male from margo's kennel .. the rest ... HUM yur female is not really a nice female .. just a female for family life ... (good things but that 'all ..)and when y see yur big price(1200 euros ) for this y think YU ARE A REAL BUSINESS MAN !!!!! best reagards ....

12-12-2008, 02:31	#43
furyos Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 729	hi again .martiou .... where yu find that y attack yur dogs??? it's just an evidence ..(and please yu write me a private mail to explain bad things from merlin ..ossa ..etc .. stop please this hypocrite attitude on this public topic and in private yu write bad words ...)hum the evidence is that yu say "y m a passionned" .. but yu do just 5 dogshows and on all juges give yu list of default for yur female .. bonitation too (tail too long /bad behaviour/p3/ dysplasy C...etc ..) and outhout this yu say :"y m professional and y breeding".. BUT THE TRUTH (and all french people know that.. yu buy yur female 1 euro ...one male (apache)100euros (and yu try to do last year a mariage with him.. and he 's from a father (benny) and his daughter( kiloute).. A REAL CONSANGUINITY THIS !!!! .. and now yu sale yur pupps like good and serious kennel who do dog show (national and international)have female A/B or A:A .... and yu are sure to have THE SCIENCE TO BREEDING !!!!! really y don't thing yu are the person who can learn to me(or to edit) something good ....but SURE if y do comptability .. yu are very good ..5 dog show ...350euros/ female 1 euros .. 5 pupps =5x1200euros =6000euros .. hum good rentability .... if yu look in origin country price are not so strong and better quality that yurs ... and if yu look french kennels they pay taxes and yu not !!!!! THIS IS THE DIFFENRENCE !!!!! and the truth ...good reflexions and best regards ... f

12-12-2008, 02:39	#45
furyos Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 729	......sure martiou ......discution to discredite someone is so easy and yu are" the specialist ".. not surprise to do the same asq soon as YU DO THAT FIRST .......if one day yu stop this attitude .... perhaps y can study to change too .. but .....

12-12-2008, 02:52	#47
furyos Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 729	WHO YU ARE to want this !!!! do yu think really any breeder give yu their intentions just because yu want an answer to yur discrdites !!!! y think yu play in a bad place .. yu can go at school before to learn good education first .... best regards .. f

12-12-2008, 10:35	#48
jasmine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 188	hmmmmm I realy don't understand why should I justify myself to somebody who has got only 1 dog and/or just having his first litter............................ A few years later, when you have got enough experienses and knowledge about this breed and breeding , and we could see your pups...than we could talk...untill...I'm so sorry to say....NOT YOU ARE THE RIGHT PERSON WHO COULD CRITIZES ME.......

12-12-2008, 11:09	#50
jasmine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 188	incompetent??? hahahahaha just enough to see the big special showresults the last two years.......and my dogs are imported to Slovakia and Czeh Rep...for breeding... yees.....I'm totaly incompetent...hahahahaha

12-12-2008, 11:23	#52
jasmine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 188	hey...you are always attact Frank and me and our dogs......... and I have got bad attitude????????? yees......everybody could hear and see just what they want................ discussion is over

12-12-2008, 12:28	#53
martiou07 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: France Posts: 1,986	http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...ogs&country=SK to finish Mrs Molnar, could is you tell me why Enzo Crying Wolf the only dog male authorized to reproduce in slovaquie??? thus your results in expos are a thing but your production is another __________________

12-12-2008, 12:32	#54
jasmine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 188	hmmmm if you would look after more precaisly... you could find more breeding dogs ,male and female with bonitacio in SK and CzRep... but you don't care the facts, your aim only the shit dropping like some of your "friends"

12-12-2008, 12:37	#55
elf Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 766	No answers as excepted (it's long time I did not except anymore for Frank as I know now he doesn't have enough knowledges). Edit, I'm working with French first national research center, currently on new cognitive learning models, formerly working on Gene Therapy on a genes insertion positioning optimisation.

12-12-2008, 12:50	#57
jasmine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 188	HMMM you have got interesting job...but why did you write it me? or are you interested in my "knowledge"???? I'm agricultural ingeniour,main profily is reproduction, now I just studee psycholigy,I was working with socialization research in ELTE University ,main trainer in search and rescue dog team in Hungary,member in curatorium in Foundation for Hungarian National breeds.............. And I surly know that there are a lot of things what I should studee more : ))))))))))

12-12-2008, 12:51	#58
jasmine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 188	try to find more...because there are !!!!!!

12-12-2008, 12:55	#59
jasmine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 188	and another but important things: every country has got the own breeding rules.....as my country and my klub has got as well...........we have caracter test (shouting, the dog must be touchable,protection work together with owner),other part is the judgment of the dog (exteriour), need two excelent showresults and HD results. Whithout any of them I couldn't get pedigree for the pups...... My klub accept just the hungarian "bonitacio"