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Old 02-12-2009, 09:12   #1
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TI know some dogs of breeders discuss here, very ill - fatally, as HD or ED nothing, for example Zlatá Palc, but I never will atac somebody here. If I have some problem I will say him personaly. If I have some doubt about dogs, just I do not use him like a stud dog. But for others, however, may be good or beautiful, and I respect it! The thing is breeding, we have no patent on reason as I told here, alredy and I'd rather wait until something bad language and publicly condemn.
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much ill csw in germany
My 2 Zlatá Palz CSV are extremely healthy.

You really found out the best way to discredit yourself. Never overcome that Zlatá Palz did not give you a puppy??
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:24   #2
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My 2 Zlatá Palz CSV are extremely healthy.
I really doesn't matter if they are healthy, extremely healthy. It is enough that the "FCI judge" Monika will spread the opinion that Zlata palz has health problems and is hiding it.... It will be enough to "ruin" the good name of a kennel...

Christian and Monika know very well that it is not important if you tell the TRUE but it is important that you TELL IT and spread the gossip around...
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Old 02-12-2009, 22:48   #3
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We all know... You are repeating it over, and over and over again.... But do you know how many breeders I know (everybody knows) who are breeding toons of dogs every year, breeding dogs since 40-50 years. But still having NO IDEA why they should make the crazy health tests....

I really have good suggestion for you - instead of puffing yourself start finally to answer the questions. Maybe start with Michael?
Because what you are trying to be, dear "FCI JUDGE", is nothing worth till there is no meaning and no knowledge behind your words.. So instead of "I'm the ....bla bla bla" maybe you will be so kind and write the answers...?

I am absolutly sure, that Michal knows, where, when and what kind of problems his dogs has or had. My note not was attack to him, and I am sure, that from my text is it clear. But not for everybody and for fanatics

I care about all " healt problems " not only about HD or Ed, where I don´t see problem in population of CSWs - no fatal! When I am not able to see clearly klinic problems and dogs with " C " more like 7 years old is able to pass every weekend 50 km - 7 years! - the dog is healthy and x - ray and opinion one vet is for me not too much. Only info about 2 joints in whole body, what work perfec!
Congenital hearts defect , degenerative myelopathie affect quality of life fundamentally. Eyes problems not are rare, too.
And if you want so I am concrete, here is one pedigree for example of dead dog with degenerative myelopathie ( for some persons can be interesting how HD combination Michal made)
http://zmolu.vlcak.cz/Files/zdravi/D_myelopatie.pdf
Sorry, Michael but you are big fun of internet discussion, Me not, because I am sure this not deals nothing, and I am absolutly sure that everywhere - in each family and linie is something

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Old 02-12-2009, 23:37   #4
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When I am not able to see clearly klinic problems and dogs with " C " more like 7 years old is able to pass every weekend 50 km - 7 years! - the dog is healthy and x - ray and opinion one vet is for me not too much.
People, do you see what I do? This is.... incredible!?
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But still having NO IDEA why they should make the crazy health tests....
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When I am not able to see clearly klinic problems and dogs with " C " more like 7 years old is able to pass every weekend 50 km - 7 years! - the dog is healthy and x - ray and opinion one vet is for me not too much.
Isn't it?


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Congenital hearts defect , degenerative myelopathie affect quality of life fundamentally. Eyes problems not are rare, too.
Like well said by the vets when we talk about different not much popular diseases in a breed "when we search we find".
Probably have some cases of very different problems in the most variate lines. When the number is pretty restrict normaly people dont care, it when they had knowledge about it, sometimes this problem could appear because of a smal mutation in this dog itself, does not means that whole breed have the problem, it would be like a smal warn about a possible problem for we investigate, but when it start to become popular (ike Elbow displasy) it start to worrie.
Luckly some diseases are easy controlable, principally now with the genetics tests, which we have already avaible like for piturary dwarfism and degenerative myelopathie, thanks to Mijke and the owners of the affected dogs, that agree in help for validade the tests.
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Old 09-12-2009, 14:21   #6
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I am absolutly sure, that Michal knows, where, when and what kind of problems his dogs has or had. My note not was attack to him, and I am sure, that from my text is it clear. But not for everybody and for fanatics

I care about all " healt problems " not only about HD or Ed, where I don´t see problem in population of CSWs - no fatal! When I am not able to see clearly klinic problems and dogs with " C " more like 7 years old is able to pass every weekend 50 km - 7 years! - the dog is healthy and x - ray and opinion one vet is for me not too much. Only info about 2 joints in whole body, what work perfec!
Congenital hearts defect , degenerative myelopathie affect quality of life fundamentally. Eyes problems not are rare, too.
And if you want so I am concrete, here is one pedigree for example of dead dog with degenerative myelopathie ( for some persons can be interesting how HD combination Michal made)
http://zmolu.vlcak.cz/Files/zdravi/D_myelopatie.pdf
Sorry, Michael but you are big fun of internet discussion, Me not, because I am sure this not deals nothing, and I am absolutly sure that everywhere - in each family and linie is something

Good night, Monika
Sorry Monika, but I still do not know what you are talking about and cannot open the link so please we would like to know which dog and which health problem!
And I want proof and evidence, maybe some veterinary report, not only gossip and lies.
I am grateful and not proud if the vast majority of our dogs is healthy, but no one can garantee 100%, of whatsoever.
I would recomment that you look also at the dogs bred by you.
A big source...

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Old 09-12-2009, 16:21   #7
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Sorry Monika, but I still do not know what you are talking about and cannot open the link so please we would like to know which dog and which health problem!
And I want proof and evidence, maybe some veterinary report, not only gossip and lies.
I am grateful and not proud if the vast majority of our dogs is healthy, but no one can garantee 100%, of whatsoever.
I would recomment that you look also at the dogs bred by you.
A big source...

Michael
http://zmolu.vlcak.cz/Files/zdravi/D_myelopatie.pdf

The name of dead dog is Amyska Zlata Palz ( ask to owner, please Michal before your attacking.)
I do not collect gossip, sorry, like big fans of woldog. org!

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Old 09-12-2009, 19:20   #8
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Hmmmmm Amyska Zlata Palz was born year 2000...

Totally there was Three dead dog of 88 dogs born between 2000-2009 in the database at the kennel Zlata Palz info, and this topic is called "Health problems by Zlata palz"

Maybe all kennels must get a Health problem topic now...
Or Is three of 88 considered to be a high number ???

Or is this just another fighting topic ???

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Old 10-12-2009, 10:59   #9
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Monika,

we know that for a long time, since the owner had contacted us.
And it's no secret...
We don't hide things or x-ray dogs somewhere else...
One out of 88 (still one too many), but I'm still grateful and humble about the little number.
Not proud.
To create health problems out of this is ridicoulos, stupid and shows in what hypocrit you turned in the recent years (more than 10 actually).
As Margo wrote it's probabely envy and your growing irrelevance as a breeder (except G and J litter), during that period.
Not to mention your Mutara involvement...
You f....d a lot of things up.
Since I don't want to create a senseless fight I stop here and don't go on the various diseases ( heart problems, epilepsy, cryptochism, ...) spread by
"z Molu es" kennel.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to accuse you and it can probabely happen to any breeder, but due to those facts you ought to be a little bit more humble and modest.
Anyway, I hope I have clarified a few things my dear.

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Old 03-12-2009, 13:54   #10
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Why did offspring of your breeding dogs died due to illness giving from the grandparents? Eichhorns you are the biggest liar in germany in case of csw!
Our stalker is back!

Thank you, too much honour, the title biggest liar in general is definetly your title, nobody can reach you!

But there are enough answers to your pathetic lies no need to support your attention seeking behaviour anymore.

At least we know now where Monika got the gossip from.
Monika's personality is one thing but I always considered her as not stupid.
Obviously I was wrong.
She should have known about your mental state and therefore the problems you've got and what anything you are doing and saying is worth.
Anyway, keep on polishing her boots, maybe that gives you the attention you're desperately seeking for.
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