Stud fees

[monita]

I would like everyone who can to write down for how much they do matings with their dogs.

We have 2 males.
Namir von Neckartal: €200
Crying Wolf Juma: €200

I asked multiple times in Slovakia about mating, I got answers in e-mail, I'll write here what answers I got.
Jakari: €450
Hit: €800
Ares: €400+
In Czech Amore Mio wrote he won't do matings with our dogs.

It's just that I'm corious.

[CDaniela]

Originally Posted by monita

In Czech Amore Mio wrote he won't do matings with our dogs.

I don´t understand

[monita]

Originally Posted by CDaniela

I don´t understand

I don't understand what you don't understand.
I think in the interest of fixing the species we need many varied pairings.
If we don't give the same price for the people living the same country as us as the other people, then we don't help the species. Different people said different prices to me. But you were correct, you wrote you won't do matings for us.
I would appriciate if someone would do a mating with our dogs here.

[Morian]

Originally Posted by monita

Jakari: €450
Hit: €800
Ares: €400+

hitt doesn't have fixed studfee, he has .../pup
my male (for statistics ) is from 50 to 100/pup (hd a, ed 0, dm n/n, pra free, t1 characer test, champion). the price differs because some people can come from 300 km, but some from 1500 km. for me it's important cause i understand them, i live very far from foreign stud males, i must pay for visa etc. so it would be not too honest from my side to ask for the same price like from the people which will not pay for visa, go so far etc.
also i know that males in cz want something around 50-80 eur/pup. males from slovakia want more (why - for me it's still a secret ). i mean only healthy males of course.

[Morian]

and sorry, let me start little offtopic here
dear owners of stud males and breeding females, do you ask for health tests before mating? i mean tests for sexually transmitted diseases like mycoplasma, herpes, staphilococcus, streptococcus, ureaplasma etc.?

[Mist]

I have heard about stud dog owner from Austria, who wants 1500 Euro for covering (does not matter, how many puppies will be born).

[Morian]

mist, i also know the same situations... but "only" for 1000 imagine, if we (people from "so far far kingdom") go - we spend ~ 1000 eur only for travel, ~ 100 for visa... brrrr

[Mist]

But I do not think, that stud dog owners, who want higher fees for covering, are bad people and destroy the breed. They spent a lot of money to present their dog (dog show fees, travelling to other countries etc.) and of course their dog is more expensive than some other dog, which has never been out of his garden.

[Morian]

i meant +/- same dogs - having bonitation, championship(s), hd and ed evaluation, dm result etc. by default

[GalomyOak]

In the US, it is common practice to receive the price for one puppy (or receive the pick of the litter instead of a fee). Many stud owners will offer a repeat breeding in the case of a small litter.

[Mikael]

In Sweden one puppy price to, if at least 2 puppys in the litter,,,

Very best regards / M

[CDaniela]

Originally Posted by monita

But you were correct, you wrote you won't do matings for us.

Which female?

[Morian]

will anybody answer to this (or i start feel crazy with such requirements )?

Originally Posted by Morian

do you ask for health tests before mating? i mean tests for sexually transmitted diseases like mycoplasma, herpes, staphilococcus, streptococcus, ureaplasma etc.?

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by Morian

will anybody answer to this (or i start feel crazy with such requirements )?

I am not a breeder but talking to other US breeders (not for CsV), many require the results of Brucellosis for any potential cross.

[mijke]

Originally Posted by Morian

and sorry, let me start little offtopic here dear owners of stud males and breeding females, do you ask for health tests before mating? i mean tests for sexually transmitted diseases like mycoplasma, herpes, staphilococcus, streptococcus, ureaplasma etc.?

Originally Posted by Morian

will anybody answer to this (or i start feel crazy with such requirements )?

No you are not crazy!

In my country for some breeds (and breed clubs) this is more common to ask But for CsW I did not hear this question before!

But before mating I always did test my females for such diseases (also CsW) , but did not ask this for males when it was not usual in club rules or the breed community

And for mating prices in my country:
Normally it is about the price of one puppy (although some breeders do ask more)
All sportive hobby breeders (in several breeds) in my country ask € 100 for each living pup with 2 weeks with a max of the puppy price! (so the risk is for female and male owner)
And for me this is a normal sportive and honest rule .

But there are also CsW owners in my country who ask the max price to pay with covering. When the female is empty, you can come back one time. When she is empty again you have bad luck….

But when Dutch female owners go to other countries for covering it is a much different story!! Even in CZ and SK sometimes huge prices are/were asked for females of abroad! Sometimes even after a female was covered the male owner did ask much more cash money than was agreed before

But…. I never did agree with (for me un sportive or strange) covering rules of breeders in CZ , SK and other countries (for female of my own or of others), and so I know only sportive and honest breeders who did cover females of West Europe

[Morian]

Originally Posted by mijke

No you are not crazy!

i am, i am...

In my country for some breeds (and breed clubs) this is more common to ask But for CsW I did not hear this question before!

very strange. i heard about many cases of herpes, for example. when whole litters died, when males couldn't "make" pups, when females got ill after covering... i mean csv of course.

But before mating I always did test my females for such diseases (also CsW) , but did not ask this for males when it was not usual in club rules or the breed community

hope russian people will not read it i tested my male before he covered his first bitch. he was healthy. then the bitch remained empty... but my male got some surprise when i repeated the same tests later(i did it because all i heard from her owner seemed strange to me - too long heat, pups were visible on usg, but then they disappeared etc.). that's why i ask here do other people ask for these tests or not. i don't want to look crazy if i ask it from anybody interested in my male but ok, there are many more factors... last time i didn't ask tests only because i know that bitch very good

All sportive hobby breeders (in several breeds) in my country ask € 100 for each living pup with 2 weeks with a max of the puppy price!

but prices differ. i don't want to name exact males, but for example we contacted one male from czech (he is cpmpletely healthy - hd a, ed 0, dm n/n, has show ch titles etc.) and his owners asked for 50 eur/pup. then we contacted another male from slovakia which had only hd result and 1 cac if i remember good, no training, nothing more... and his owner wanted from us 100 eur. so the question is: what determines the price (i don't talk about owner's fantasy )? seems there is no logic at all. i explained in my previous message how i define studfee, cause some people from europe contacted me and i really know what is to make visa and what is to go so far... that's why i wonder more and more.

But there are also CsW owners in my country who ask the max price to pay with covering. When the female is empty, you can come back one time. When she is empty again you have bad luck….

stupidity...

[monita]

Daniela!
Ch. Mona von neckartal

[*Satu]

Originally Posted by Morian

mist, i also know the same situations... but "only" for 1000 imagine, if we (people from "so far far kingdom") go - we spend ~ 1000 eur only for travel, ~ 100 for visa... brrrr

Not bad at all.

after 5000km and almost 2 week traveling, 4x progesteroni tests a´100e and my female is pregnant. every km i have drive by my self.

and after that next 6000km because next dog was in heat.... (other breed)

[Morian]

Originally Posted by *Satu

after 5000km and almost 2 week traveling

to lithuania??

[*Satu]

Twice in one heat and one way is ower 1200km.... i don´t live in Helsinki
also male dosen´t live there where i stayed.