British Kennel Club Recognition - Page 12

Tazer · 22-09-2011, 15:52

I don't want a csv to use for breeding, I simply want a pet...that I've no doubt will teach me a lot.

Taz

Rona · 22-09-2011, 16:02

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Originally Posted by Tazer

I don't want a csv to use for breeding, I simply want a pet...that I've no doubt will teach me a lot.

Oh yes!

Shadowlands · 22-09-2011, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Tazer

I don't want a csv to use for breeding, I simply want a pet...that I've no doubt will teach me a lot.

Taz

Faith is slowly being restored xx

tupacs2legs · 22-09-2011, 16:07

Hang on guys....wasn't meant as 'people on this thread' want to breed

But let's face it it is true,pixie has mentioned breeding,as has orkwolf and a lot of novice owners I have spoken to,and not forgetting any dog bought from 'mr winder' is encouraged to breed from...and some of these dogs contain cw....that's all I was saying

pixie · 22-09-2011, 16:29

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

Hang on guys....wasn't meant as 'people on this thread' want to breed

But let's face it it is true,pixie has mentioned breeding,as has orkwolf and a lot of novice owners I have spoken to,and not forgetting any dog bought from 'mr winder' is encouraged to breed from...and some of these dogs contain cw....that's all I was saying

I would only breed Pixie if she passed all the health checks, and it was to promote the breed here, otherwise i am not interested in breeding her and never have been. She was bought as a pet pure and simple, and that is the way she will stay, I have no intention of importing or buying any other CSV for breeding although i am tempted to get another as a pet lol because she is so lovely. I hope that clears up my breeding ambitions just in case I am an Owner not a breeder

tupacs2legs · 22-09-2011, 16:47

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Originally Posted by pixie

I would only breed Pixie if she passed all the health checks, and it was to promote the breed here, otherwise i am not interested in breeding her and never have been. She was bought as a pet pure and simple, and that is the way she will stay, I have no intention of importing or buying any other CSV for breeding although i am tempted to get another as a pet lol because she is so lovely. I hope that clears up my breeding ambitions just in case I am an Owner not a breeder

thats still breeding

and isnt your dogs sire a cw dog?

anyway its not meant as a 'slur' im just stating facts...a fact you posted on this forum before

pixie · 22-09-2011, 16:55

Yes her dad is a CW dog, and i dont really have any intention to breed just stating the conditions that would make me do it, and I did'nt take it as a slur mainly because it never came across that way lol

Tazer · 22-09-2011, 17:49

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

Hang on guys....wasn't meant as 'people on this thread' want to breed

I know, was just taking the oppertunity to make my position/intentions clear.

Taz

Murph · 22-09-2011, 17:55

Why do we share our lives with dogs?!
That special sort of companionship that you don't have with people..that special bond ...thats what i'm looking with my csv......
...and seems it is that special something that csv owners are discribing when they say csv's are 'different' than other breeds.
I hope that is what motivates others....not the opportunity to breed

hedeon · 22-09-2011, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Murph

I hope that is what motivates others....not the opportunity to breed

I do hope too. But supply and demand are dictating
other motives. And whenever money is involved, I am not so trusty any more..

tupacs2legs · 22-09-2011, 18:06

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Originally Posted by hedeon

I do hope too. But supply and demand are dictating
other motives. And whenever money is involved, I am not so trusty any more..

i dont want to feel that way...but i do

Nebulosa · 22-09-2011, 18:57

Done, but I left here the posts talking about the mixes and old breeders too, because I think it could be a problem to the recognition of the breed at the british kennel club.
If you find better split it in one different topic (one only about the mixes and other problems related) please let me know.

Tassle · 22-09-2011, 19:18

I have no interest in breeding at all.

Although I own a Mix and would actually like a Saarloos - I like the CsV as a breed and would be interested in helping to get recognition in the hope that one day the Saarloos might do the same..

pixie · 22-09-2011, 19:25

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

Hang on guys....wasn't meant as 'people on this thread' want to breed

But let's face it it is true,pixie has mentioned breeding,as has orkwolf and a lot of novice owners I have spoken to,and not forgetting any dog bought from 'mr winder' is encouraged to breed from...and some of these dogs contain cw....that's all I was saying

just a point i am 53years old and had dogs of various breeds over the years mainly GSD's i have only bred once when my border terriers mated by mistake and that now cant happen again (poor boy) hardly a novice owner

pixie · 22-09-2011, 21:12

does anyone know when the next meet is in europe will try to get there and does anyone in Britain want to meet up to form a club it does not need to be straight away but we need to get a date organised

Aranwen · 22-09-2011, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Murph

Why do we share our lives with dogs?!
That special sort of companionship that you don't have with people..that special bond ...thats what i'm looking with my csv......
...and seems it is that special something that csv owners are discribing when they say csv's are 'different' than other breeds.
I hope that is what motivates others....not the opportunity to breed

This is ,indeed, all that motivates me and I look forward to the day when I have a CsW pup of my own and may even be able to take to shows in the future

Tazer · 22-09-2011, 21:41

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Originally Posted by pixie

does anyone know when the next meet is in europe will try to get there and does anyone in Britain want to meet up to form a club it does not need to be straight away but we need to get a date organised

Yes I'm more than happy to meet up, but no, I don't know when the next Euro meeting is.

Taz

hedeon · 22-09-2011, 21:54

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Originally Posted by Tazer

Yes I'm more than happy to meet up, but no, I don't know when the next Euro meeting is.

Taz

I think info about most of meetings you can find here, in this site.
Here is event calendar:
http://www.wolfdog.org/site/calendar

may be not very helpful as just realised names of events are written mostly in languages different than english.

Tazer · 22-09-2011, 23:15

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Originally Posted by hedeon

I think info about most of meetings you can find here, in this site.
Here is event calendar:
http://www.wolfdog.org/site/calendar

may be not very helpful as just realised names of events are written mostly in languages different than english.

Thanks

Taz

GalomyOak · 22-09-2011, 23:29

In the beginning of our club, we created a "Code of Ethics" and also a set of club bylaws. These can be used to oust people from the club (they were both finalized about a month ago, so we haven't had to enforce them yet). Although we haven't had the problem of mix-breeding here (well, maybe some Tamasken "variation" people, but they have no interest in our club or breed), we have had some other issues...but everyone is given a clean slate at this point, since there were no legally binding club documents prior to ours for the breed. If anyone messes up now, and we are aware of it, they will have their membership terminated...though unfortunately, this has no effect on their relationship with AKC.

At our core we have a board of 5 members who make decisions on voting people out, and takes on judicial duty if people violate the code of ethics or bylaws. We also have different types of membership - full voting rights are only given to adult CSV owners residing in the US, but non-owners as well as owners/non-owners can have non-voting membership and be fully involved with club activities. We plan to have a health testing scheme as part of our code of ethics, as well as a mandate on no cross-breeding. Maybe it is worth it for your club to look to other clubs (as we did!) - both CSV clubs in other countries, as well as "successful" (in terms of ethics and health) parent breed clubs within the UK. I would think the KC might be of some use also once they realize that there are serious people who are in things for the right reasons.

Here are links to our club documents, if they might be of some help:
http://www.czechoslovakianvlcak.org/codeofethics.html
http://www.czechoslovakianvlcak.org/...nstitution.pdf

22-09-2011, 15:52	#221
Tazer Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 77	I don't want a csv to use for breeding, I simply want a pet...that I've no doubt will teach me a lot. Taz __________________ Never argue with idiots. they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

22-09-2011, 18:57	#232
Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 1,334	Done, but I left here the posts talking about the mixes and old breeders too, because I think it could be a problem to the recognition of the breed at the british kennel club. If you find better split it in one different topic (one only about the mixes and other problems related) please let me know. __________________

22-09-2011, 23:29	#240
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	In the beginning of our club, we created a "Code of Ethics" and also a set of club bylaws. These can be used to oust people from the club (they were both finalized about a month ago, so we haven't had to enforce them yet). Although we haven't had the problem of mix-breeding here (well, maybe some Tamasken "variation" people, but they have no interest in our club or breed), we have had some other issues...but everyone is given a clean slate at this point, since there were no legally binding club documents prior to ours for the breed. If anyone messes up now, and we are aware of it, they will have their membership terminated...though unfortunately, this has no effect on their relationship with AKC. At our core we have a board of 5 members who make decisions on voting people out, and takes on judicial duty if people violate the code of ethics or bylaws. We also have different types of membership - full voting rights are only given to adult CSV owners residing in the US, but non-owners as well as owners/non-owners can have non-voting membership and be fully involved with club activities. We plan to have a health testing scheme as part of our code of ethics, as well as a mandate on no cross-breeding. Maybe it is worth it for your club to look to other clubs (as we did!) - both CSV clubs in other countries, as well as "successful" (in terms of ethics and health) parent breed clubs within the UK. I would think the KC might be of some use also once they realize that there are serious people who are in things for the right reasons. Here are links to our club documents, if they might be of some help: http://www.czechoslovakianvlcak.org/codeofethics.html http://www.czechoslovakianvlcak.org/...nstitution.pdf __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

22-09-2011, 16:07	#224
tupacs2legs rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: london Posts: 320	Hang on guys....wasn't meant as 'people on this thread' want to breed But let's face it it is true,pixie has mentioned breeding,as has orkwolf and a lot of novice owners I have spoken to,and not forgetting any dog bought from 'mr winder' is encouraged to breed from...and some of these dogs contain cw....that's all I was saying

22-09-2011, 16:55	#227
pixie Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 89	Yes her dad is a CW dog, and i dont really have any intention to breed just stating the conditions that would make me do it, and I did'nt take it as a slur mainly because it never came across that way lol

22-09-2011, 17:55	#229
Murph Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 54	Why do we share our lives with dogs?! That special sort of companionship that you don't have with people..that special bond ...thats what i'm looking with my csv...... ...and seems it is that special something that csv owners are discribing when they say csv's are 'different' than other breeds. I hope that is what motivates others....not the opportunity to breed

22-09-2011, 19:18	#233
Tassle Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall Posts: 137	I have no interest in breeding at all. Although I own a Mix and would actually like a Saarloos - I like the CsV as a breed and would be interested in helping to get recognition in the hope that one day the Saarloos might do the same..

22-09-2011, 21:12	#235
pixie Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 89	does anyone know when the next meet is in europe will try to get there and does anyone in Britain want to meet up to form a club it does not need to be straight away but we need to get a date organised