Mixes: Crying Wolf (Hungary)

Priska182 · 25-09-2011, 12:23

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Originally Posted by Admin

But we will add new option - "under investigation". It will be added to ALL puppies from a litter where even one totally untypical dog was born. For example - there are red puppies born in the litters of Sibir nd Rambo Crying Wolf. Because of it we will mark as "under investigation" all dogs from "R" and "S" litters of Crying wolf and all their offsprings.

But the red pups are from Sibir and Thalia Crying Wolf...

Lorry - MLS · 25-09-2011, 13:51

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Originally Posted by Admin

there are red puppies born in the litters of Sibir nd Rambo Crying Wolf.

Je découvre ce message avec stupeur !

Dois je comprendre que vous écrivez publiquement, que j'ai produit des chiots typés saarloos avec Rambo comme père ?

Merci de me dire si je traduit de façon incorrecte ou si c'est réellement ce que vous avez osé écrire et ce qu'il faut donc comprendre ?

Et si vous êtes en mesure d'écrire que Rambo a eu des chiots roux avec une femelle de chez moi (car Rambo, n'a jamais sailli une femelle qui ne m'appartenait pas) j'aimerai bien savoir de quelle femelle il s'agit ...."vos sources" ont bien dû vous donner des informations complètes ? Non ?

Si vous vous basez aux données inscrites sur WD, (pour étayer votre information de MIX) vous êtes sans doute bien placé pour savoir, que c'est une invention de toute pièce, Rambo n'a jamais sailli une prétendue Di'Mystic Wolf, qui je le répète pour la centième fois, a été purement inventé.

Ce chien a 3 sources de descendance différentes :
Bubka de New Flame, Cinthia Spod Dumbiera et Di'Sun Shy Inn de MLS, et d'aucune de ces femelles, il n'est sorti de chiot roux, au nez marron...

J'attends donc VOTRE réponse
à savoir : avec quelle femelle, il y a eu des chiots roux avec Rambo, chez moi ??

Lorry - MLS · 26-09-2011, 11:51

Le lendemain ....

Je constate, une fois de plus, que l'Admin, qui se permet de d'écrire publiquement sur ma production, est soudain devenu muet, quand il s'agit de répondre à une question toute simple que je lui pose :

"Avec quelle femelle, Rambo Crying Wolf a-t-il eu des chiots rouges, nés chez moi " ?

C'est fascinant cette faculté, que vous avez de lancer des rumeurs de façon publique avec une certaine aisance et rapidité et que lorsqu'il faut répondre à une question toute simple, d'un coup, il n'y a plus personne pour prendre ses responsabilités et répondre à la dite question, dont VOUS ETES, vous-même, à l'origine ....

Vous devez pourtant bien savoir de quelle femelle il s'agit, puisque vous savez l'affirmer sur ce Forum ?!

Alors ASSUMEZ vos écrits et répondez moi !

admin · 27-09-2011, 00:44

I have a question to you - I hope you wil answer it: I was informed that there were three red puppies born. Two of Sibir and one of Rambo? If not - what was the third puppy? Who are the parents?

I hope you will understand it - I'm receiving MANY emails about this problem. People are affraid to write here on the forum because they wil be attacked in their countries. But they send me a lot of information via private emails.
At the same time I know that there can be some rumors and some gossips amond the information I get - it is why I will publish all suspicions here on forum. I give the possiblity to clear the whole situation.

The goal is not to ban/punish any breeders but to find out which dogs are/can be MIXES because nobody serious want to use any mixed dogs in their kennels. You goal is to protect the interest breeder of purebreed CsWs. An we can do it only when we will check/verify any information we get.

Rona · 27-09-2011, 17:41

Lorry, don't be cynical. I asked you a plain & easy question a couple of weeks ago which you never answered. If you don't bother to anwer questions why do you expect others to answer yours?

Lorry - MLS · 27-09-2011, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Rona

Lorry, don't be cynical. I asked you a plain & easy question a couple of weeks ago which you never answered. If you don't bother to anwer questions why do you expect others to answer yours?

I point out that the question that I ask that they reply is strictly related to an assertion of the Admin who claims that Rambo is also the father of a brown puppy born at home ....
It is therefore quite legitimate that I ask basic information:

Who female ?

I did not ask to be re-projected into the arena of slander on WD ...
I have not asked what we said the wrong things on my farm

So if I want to be cynical, I am ....
I like to think I still have this freedom of expression, failing to use my native language for m express!

As for your question, I do not even know which one it is (talk to me on the French Forum, if you want to be sure I am informed of your questions)

But I said, if I decide not to answer you, it's my absolute right, in the sense that I did not defame you, I do not broadcast false information about your dogs and therefore, humanly speaking, I owe you nothing, not even any answer, if I sing well!

This is not the case of Admin, who invented the false rumors ... I should at least answer my question, is the least we can do!

In addition, I am "forbidden" to write in French and English on the forum to be honest I hate to write in English because I'm not sure 100% of what I write ....

Priska182 · 04-10-2011, 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin

I have a question to you - I hope you wil answer it: I was informed that there were three red puppies born. Two of Sibir and one of Rambo? If not - what was the third puppy? Who are the parents?

As I know those 3 pups are from the same litter from Sibir and Thalia Crying Wolf. 10 pups was born, 3 reds... All the litter (even the 3 red one) has been test and all the pups are from Sibir Crying Wolf and Thalia Crying Wolf

jmvdwiel · 11-03-2012, 16:17

Hi Admin,

can you explain why a lot of the crying wolf dog have an ! behind crying wolf?

and also why Fallko Kollárov dvor (_!_) has this mark???

greetings judith
owner crying wolf Bárány

Hanka · 12-03-2012, 07:30

Can I know why my W Crying wolf females have (_?_) by their name? why has something similar my Valska Od Úhoště?
Admin, have you got in hand ANY document about it they are some mix, etc?
If no, can you delete these nonsens?

pariduzz · 13-03-2012, 01:09

Can I know why my C litter (lupifelix)and my dog cuma, have this sign (_!_) near their name?

The father is echo crying wolf,but i' think the e litter crying wolf ,is clear to all,is from hitt and arys.

The litter E, is obvious to all, ... to all those know just something about this breed, which was generated by Arys and Hitt and there are very strong similarity between these dogs and their parents and half brothers.

In my litter there are puppies very similar to their ancestor hitt and arys,dogs that ,as you know,come from other breeders.

I'dont know why only the e litter from arys have this sign!

I'm ready to do all dna tests you need ,but i'trust in wd team and i'm waiting for clear answer.

Nebulosa · 13-03-2012, 03:59

No one know yet what is the meaning of the symbols (_!_) and (_?_), we're all waiting Admin write about it explaining what is it and the precise meaning of each new symbol.

yukidomari · 14-03-2012, 16:31

I believe all CW litters where the sire is living at the kennels of Crying Wolf (not outside stud) are marked for obvious reasons. But it is not marked as mixes or whatever, only that they are suspect, I suppose.

If a kennel cannot guarantee the father of their litters, and is uncooperative about resolving issues, as I think is apparent from the atypical litter(s) born in France, then I don't think one can assume the same about any other litters born there? Just my opinion.

Norky · 22-06-2012, 08:15

Problem Crying Wolf Y-litter?
All litter is problematic to you!
(example: CW. Lara, CW.Odette etc. etc.)

The Hungarian Kennel Club does not help, because do nothing against the private side.

(I asked, but can not help in this case.)

What can a MEOE,to prove out to you the pedigrees authenticity...but I think that that is not enough for you.

Sadly, it can do anything without proof ....

I'm doing anything in vain, not only do I clear my dogs name
before you.

Therefore, any unnecessary strain ...this is all politics ....

z Peronówki · 22-06-2012, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norky

Problem Crying Wolf Y-litter?
All litter is problematic to you!

To ME???? I'm sorry but I think you mix some different things. AS I told: my vision of banning litters and dogs is a bit different than this of Admin. I have less problems with CW dogs and more with French (I think it is not fair to set on the same level litters of CW which are MAYBE mixed with dogs from "de la Louve blanche" which are mixed FOR SURE).

About the Y-litter: finally you must understand that (much) more people see that there is something REALLY wrong with Crying Wolf dogs. The Y-litter was reported by Hana KAufmanova from Czech Republic. One I can say to you: for 100% she is not my friend.

And as far I see she is a big enemy of the new Admin. She is also the ex-friend of Edith so if she decided to report the litter(s) - there must be some other reason which are known by her.
I think the given reasons were really good because it was accepted by the Czech Kennel Club who asked the Slovakian Kennel club for DNA tests. If Hana would not have any reasons they would never accept it - they do not accept "gossips".

For me it is not a problem. I think the Y-litter owners are even lucky. Because after the DNA tests will be done at least one CW "line" will be happy because they will be DNA tested and nobody else will spread any gossips about them.

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Originally Posted by Norky

(example: CW. Lara, CW.Odette etc. etc.)

You forgot Sibir and Thalia - the parents of the red Wolfdogs looking like pure Saarloos - so similar to the Saarloos owned by Edith...

Don't you see that there is really something going on? And it must be cleared...

Norky · 22-06-2012, 15:49

Not Margo, I do not see that my dogs are mixes ...
The admin and without any evidence to call them.
Interesting .... not even a judge said that they do not have the kind of breedcharacter ....
Red mix or purple mix?
Without proof? Bold enough to say this ...

I'm sorry that my club has not taken .... and I do not know anything ...

Norky · 29-06-2012, 09:38

Can someone tell me out the editor of this page?
I need the name and contact details.

Thank you

Aniko

Arnolda · 02-07-2012, 02:05

Why is there an (-?-) after my dogs name, Buia Whispering Wolf?
Why does the pedigree of this dog says that she is NO MORE for breeding?
Why is my kennel name not in the list of Dutch kennels, van Meisels Stee?
Why are my photo's not shown in the gallery?

Someone (admin) needs to explain this!
Unbelieveable that one person can dictate and decide this!!!

Norky · 02-07-2012, 06:29

Someone (admin) needs to explain this!
Unbelieveable that one person can dictate and decide this!!![/quote]

No, it's not unbelievable ....this site all things are possible!
And what is ? or ! ?
Mix!!

Do not worry about it, I think it's all politics ....

Norky · 13-03-2012, 11:59

Crying Wolf Lara ..... (!) What is the problem??
Crying Wolf Odette .... (?) What is the problem??

I do not understand .... ALL data you inject ....
Even the kennel name is deleted ....
That's a shame, is outrageous!!

Norky · 13-03-2012, 12:16

And....
Crying Wolf Lara have ALL PAPER AND HD SREENING the official breeding.
Your comment: "no more" breeding status.
What does it take you?

Who will explain this to me out??????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????

You maturity of my dogs and me .... and you do not answer ....
Thank you Admin!

26-09-2011, 11:51	#3
Lorry - MLS Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 988	Le lendemain .... Je constate, une fois de plus, que l'Admin, qui se permet de d'écrire publiquement sur ma production, est soudain devenu muet, quand il s'agit de répondre à une question toute simple que je lui pose : "Avec quelle femelle, Rambo Crying Wolf a-t-il eu des chiots rouges, nés chez moi " ? C'est fascinant cette faculté, que vous avez de lancer des rumeurs de façon publique avec une certaine aisance et rapidité et que lorsqu'il faut répondre à une question toute simple, d'un coup, il n'y a plus personne pour prendre ses responsabilités et répondre à la dite question, dont VOUS ETES, vous-même, à l'origine .... Vous devez pourtant bien savoir de quelle femelle il s'agit, puisque vous savez l'affirmer sur ce Forum ?! Alors ASSUMEZ vos écrits et répondez moi ! __________________ Les éléments présents sur la BD de WD, concernant mes chiens / ma production, sont en grande partie erronés. Pour obtenir de vraies informations, il est plus sage de me contacter directement ..... Last edited by Lorry - MLS; 26-09-2011 at 11:55.

27-09-2011, 17:41	#5
Rona Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Posts: 3,509	Lorry, don't be cynical. I asked you a plain & easy question a couple of weeks ago which you never answered. If you don't bother to anwer questions why do you expect others to answer yours? __________________

11-03-2012, 16:17	#8
jmvdwiel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,061	CWs Hi Admin, can you explain why a lot of the crying wolf dog have an ! behind crying wolf? and also why Fallko Kollárov dvor (_!_) has this mark??? greetings judith owner crying wolf Bárány Last edited by jmvdwiel; 11-03-2012 at 16:34. Reason: changed all in a lot

13-03-2012, 01:09	#10
pariduzz Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Monte di Procida (Na) Posts: 1,682	Can I know why my C litter (lupifelix)and my dog cuma, have this sign (_!_) near their name? The father is echo crying wolf,but i' think the e litter crying wolf ,is clear to all,is from hitt and arys. The litter E, is obvious to all, ... to all those know just something about this breed, which was generated by Arys and Hitt and there are very strong similarity between these dogs and their parents and half brothers. In my litter there are puppies very similar to their ancestor hitt and arys,dogs that ,as you know,come from other breeders. I'dont know why only the e litter from arys have this sign! I'm ready to do all dna tests you need ,but i'trust in wd team and i'm waiting for clear answer. __________________ www.lupifelix.it

13-03-2012, 03:59	#11
Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 1,334	No one know yet what is the meaning of the symbols (_!_) and (_?_), we're all waiting Admin write about it explaining what is it and the precise meaning of each new symbol. __________________

27-09-2011, 00:44	#4
admin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 583	I have a question to you - I hope you wil answer it: I was informed that there were three red puppies born. Two of Sibir and one of Rambo? If not - what was the third puppy? Who are the parents? I hope you will understand it - I'm receiving MANY emails about this problem. People are affraid to write here on the forum because they wil be attacked in their countries. But they send me a lot of information via private emails. At the same time I know that there can be some rumors and some gossips amond the information I get - it is why I will publish all suspicions here on forum. I give the possiblity to clear the whole situation. The goal is not to ban/punish any breeders but to find out which dogs are/can be MIXES because nobody serious want to use any mixed dogs in their kennels. You goal is to protect the interest breeder of purebreed CsWs. An we can do it only when we will check/verify any information we get.

12-03-2012, 07:30	#9
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Can I know why my W Crying wolf females have (_?_) by their name? why has something similar my Valska Od Úhoště? Admin, have you got in hand ANY document about it they are some mix, etc? If no, can you delete these nonsens?

14-03-2012, 16:31	#12
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	I believe all CW litters where the sire is living at the kennels of Crying Wolf (not outside stud) are marked for obvious reasons. But it is not marked as mixes or whatever, only that they are suspect, I suppose. If a kennel cannot guarantee the father of their litters, and is uncooperative about resolving issues, as I think is apparent from the atypical litter(s) born in France, then I don't think one can assume the same about any other litters born there? Just my opinion. __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/

22-06-2012, 08:15	#13
Norky Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kecskemét,Külsőnyír 155/a Posts: 44	Y litter????? Problem Crying Wolf Y-litter? All litter is problematic to you! (example: CW. Lara, CW.Odette etc. etc.) The Hungarian Kennel Club does not help, because do nothing against the private side. (I asked, but can not help in this case.) What can a MEOE,to prove out to you the pedigrees authenticity...but I think that that is not enough for you. Sadly, it can do anything without proof .... I'm doing anything in vain, not only do I clear my dogs name before you. Therefore, any unnecessary strain ...this is all politics .... Last edited by Norky; 22-06-2012 at 08:20.

22-06-2012, 15:49	#15
Norky Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kecskemét,Külsőnyír 155/a Posts: 44	Mix Not Margo, I do not see that my dogs are mixes ... The admin and without any evidence to call them. Interesting .... not even a judge said that they do not have the kind of breedcharacter .... Red mix or purple mix? Without proof? Bold enough to say this ... I'm sorry that my club has not taken .... and I do not know anything ...

29-06-2012, 09:38	#16
Norky Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kecskemét,Külsőnyír 155/a Posts: 44	Admin???? Can someone tell me out the editor of this page? I need the name and contact details. Thank you Aniko

02-07-2012, 02:05	#17
Arnolda Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Barneveld Posts: 145	Why is there an (-?-) after my dogs name, Buia Whispering Wolf? Why does the pedigree of this dog says that she is NO MORE for breeding? Why is my kennel name not in the list of Dutch kennels, van Meisels Stee? Why are my photo's not shown in the gallery? Someone (admin) needs to explain this! Unbelieveable that one person can dictate and decide this!!! __________________ www.vanmeiselsstee.nl

02-07-2012, 06:29	#18
Norky Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kecskemét,Külsőnyír 155/a Posts: 44	response Someone (admin) needs to explain this! Unbelieveable that one person can dictate and decide this!!![/quote] No, it's not unbelievable ....this site all things are possible! And what is ? or ! ? Mix!! Do not worry about it, I think it's all politics ....

13-03-2012, 11:59	#19
Norky Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kecskemét,Külsőnyír 155/a Posts: 44	vom Hause Norky kennel Crying Wolf Lara ..... (!) What is the problem?? Crying Wolf Odette .... (?) What is the problem?? I do not understand .... ALL data you inject .... Even the kennel name is deleted .... That's a shame, is outrageous!!

13-03-2012, 12:16	#20
Norky Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kecskemét,Külsőnyír 155/a Posts: 44	????????????????????????? And.... Crying Wolf Lara have ALL PAPER AND HD SREENING the official breeding. Your comment: "no more" breeding status. What does it take you? Who will explain this to me out??????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? You maturity of my dogs and me .... and you do not answer .... Thank you Admin!