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Old 11-11-2008, 17:07   #21
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Hi Rolf,

Dogs are sorted by "origin country" (breeder), your dogs are in Czech Republic category. The dog you see for Danmark is this one: http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/2175

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Old 11-11-2008, 18:17   #22
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Hi Elf,

Sorry for the misunderstanding

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Old 14-11-2008, 01:58   #23
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Old 14-11-2008, 14:25   #24
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Hi,

I wanted a while ago to be able to study some lines, I know that Przemek and Margo are very busy with the DB and didn't want to push at them about that, so I collected some of the info available on wolfdog.org (HD, Training, Name, Gender, Mother, Father, Coat Color, Breeder, Origin Country, Birthday, Index Heigh, ED, Owner, Bonitation, Index Format, Coat Lenght) and rebuilt my own database, then ran some stats against it. When I will have time I want to make a GUI to allow an easy way for specific stats request. The goal is to have a tool that can help breeder in their work.

Margo one question, if breeders are interested by this DB and tool, what would be the distribution copyright on it ? Does something like "all informations from wolfdog.org, for home personnal use only (i.e. the DB cannot be put online), would fit ?

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Output examples of the tool, giving a dog and the depth wanted:

http://ametiste.ifrance.com/7818.html
http://ametiste.ifrance.com/3584.html
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Output examples of the tool, giving a dog and the depth wanted:

http://ametiste.ifrance.com/7818.html
http://ametiste.ifrance.com/3584.html
Interesting to see that in 3 generations Cutt have 748 offsprings .
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Elf, You wright about dogs who living in country (in me case Lithua )- or about all dogs who is register and born in country?
If about dogs who living - Lithua have 17 wolfdog.
results:
HD
7 - HD A,
1 - HD B,
1 - HD C,
1 - HD E.

ED- all have 0,

Bonitation:
We have dogs with young presentation- 7
dogs with bonitation:7
Oc-1,
Od-2,
Of-1,
Og -2,
Oh-1.

dogs size is 58 cm (latest young presentation - 6 monts pupps)-70 cm

1 x E1,
2 x K1,
1 x F2,
1 x N14,
3 x P1,
3 x P3,
1 x P14.

we have import:,
2 x from CZ, 1 x from Sk, 2 x from PL
in Lithua born 3 litters - (24 puppies), 0 dead pupps.

we make export:
Pl - 7 (1 have HD A, and young presentation (litter "I"), 1 young presentation (litter "L"))
Italy- 1,
Estonia - 1 (HD A, ED 0, bonitation Oc, K1/64 cm (litter "W")),
Spain - 1 dog (HD A (litter "I")),
Latvia - 1 dog,
Greece- 1 dog.

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If about dogs who living - Lithua have 17 wolfdog.
results:
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7 - HD A,
1 - HD B,
1 - HD C,
1 - HD E
Elf base on the results published in the database and marked as "veryfied" It can be the reason for the differences.... Similar "false" statistics you will get also for Poland because some breeders publish only good results and hide the bad ones what make the percentage of healthy dogs higher than it is in reality. The true data (full and true statistics) is possible to make only in countries where all results are published in the official publications (for example club magazine in Czech Republic).
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This info have ours LKD and CSV club- and this is oficial.
we send info to wolfdog, but not all info is wright in dogs DB now.(mas wait actualisation DB )
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The true data (full and true statistics) is possible to make only in countries where all results are published in the official publications (for example club magazine in Czech Republic).
Same is italy because you can find all results (good and bad) in Libro genealogico online - www.enci.it
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The true data (full and true statistics) is possible to make only in countries where all results are published in the official publications (for example club magazine in Czech Republic).
Also in Denmark we have a database for all dogs who are members of DKK where you can see HD/ED, show and exam-results(made/passed in DK). ...but unfortunatly only in Danish !

http://www.hundeweb.dk/dkkcm/public/...=1164742020632

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Some more stats:

More than 50 offsprings the first generation:

2004.01.31 : Merlin Crying Wolf = 54
1991.01.29 : Alan Břevnovská stopa CS = 53
1998.10.27 : Clover ---(priv. Rienzi)--- = 92
1984.09.23 : Flit z Rosíkova CS = 61
1985.04.25 : Gar z Rosíkova CS = 130
2004.11.11 : Vaicko Passo del Lupo = 60
1982.12.29 : Atos z Belešova CS = 68
1997.05.12 : Nord Šedá eminence = 51
1991.03.03 : Cord Šedá eminence = 55
1994.09.26 : Charon Šedá eminence = 120
1984.08.02 : Astor Mot'ovský dvor CS = 60
1988.01.08 : Cézar od Pavlišina CS = 91
1992.02.02 : Omar z Krotkovského dvora CS = 95
2001.04.12 : Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- = 135
1979.11.14 : Rep z Pohraniční stráže (F3) = 245
1988.08.25 : Dan Balmar CS = 54
1998.02.18 : Dak z Rosíkova = 51
2000.10.06 : Rendy ---Passo del Lupo--- = 51
1994.11.07 : Chrop z Kladenské záře CS = 53
2002.10.15 : Duncan ---Colle del Lupo--- = 82
1991.10.05 : Farna Jimili CS = 77
1982.07.17 : Bary z Rosíkova CS = 54
1973.08.30 : Lord z Pohraniční stráže (F3) = 68
1988.03.16 : Orlík z Rosíkova CS = 127
1997.11.14 : Grey Wolf z Molu Es = 81
1986.10.05 : Binc Pohostinstvo CS = 62
1993.03.04 : Colt Zepeř CS = 81
2002.10.03 : Miky Passo del Lupo = 151
1996.11.10 : Milo Ruskov dvor CS = 89
2001.12.04 : Edgar Passo del Lupo = 55
2001.10.04 : Last Navarre Arimminum = 54
1985.01.23 : Barry z Doušova dvora CS = 62
1998.12.20 : Ambra Vlčí naděje = 67
2003.04.18 : Timber Wolf Arimminum = 73
1995.10.27 : Ali Reolup = 60
1989.10.14 : Abe z Molu CS = 98
1993.01.05 : Amur z Ďáblova kaňonu CS = 83

More than 250 offsprings on 2 generations:

1987.10.18 : Ariel Lobos CS = 256
1982.07.10 : Ata z Richnovského dvora CS (F3) = 254
1986.01.28 : Alda od Pavlišina CS = 285
1998.10.27 : Clover ---(priv. Rienzi)--- = 535
1984.09.23 : Flit z Rosíkova CS = 343
1985.04.25 : Gar z Rosíkova CS = 662
1981.05.07 : Cmuka z Pohraniční stráže = 258
1994.09.26 : Charon Šedá eminence = 728
1995.03.03 : Cagi od Úhoště = 263
1988.01.08 : Cézar od Pavlišina CS = 432
1998.01.07 : Ariska della Terra Selvaggia = 283
1983.04.14 : Gyra z Pohraniční stráže = 279
1996.10.24 : Dalos Duna Fehérlófia = 294
1984.09.23 : Flota z Rosíkova CS = 310
1992.02.02 : Omar z Krotkovského dvora CS = 316
1991.10.05 : Fea Jimili CS = 282
1994.02.22 : Amálka od Buližníku CS = 298
2001.04.12 : Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- = 509
1994.01.27 : Hasso z Kladenské záře CS = 290
1979.11.14 : Rep z Pohraniční stráže (F3) = 1339
1988.11.13 : Dina z Banišťa CS = 264
1994.11.07 : Chrop z Kladenské záře CS = 255
1988.03.16 : Orlík z Rosíkova CS = 304
1997.11.14 : Grey Wolf z Molu Es = 358
1984.10.01 : Bruna z Banišťa CS (F3) = 309
1993.03.04 : Colt Zepeř CS = 267
2002.10.03 : Miky Passo del Lupo = 384
1996.11.10 : Milo Ruskov dvor CS = 397
1983.02.04 : Archibald z Ivánky pri Dunaji CS = 273
1985.01.23 : Barry z Doušova dvora CS = 296
1980.06.27 : Tola z Pohraniční stráže = 262
1998.12.20 : Ambra Vlčí naděje = 336
1995.10.27 : Ali Reolup = 326
1993.01.05 : Amur z Ďáblova kaňonu CS = 410

More than 600 offsprings on 3 generations:

1987.10.18 : Ariel Lobos CS = 894
1982.07.10 : Ata z Richnovského dvora CS (F3) = 808
1986.01.28 : Alda od Pavlišina CS = 938
1998.10.27 : Clover ---(priv. Rienzi)--- = 837
1982.07.10 : Alma z Richnovského dvora CS (F3) = 782
1984.09.23 : Flit z Rosíkova CS = 1078
1985.04.25 : Gar z Rosíkova CS = 2057
1982.12.29 : Atos z Belešova CS = 620
1987.12.20 : Atos Heol CS = 874
1981.05.07 : Cmuka z Pohraniční stráže = 1097
1994.09.26 : Charon Šedá eminence = 1381
1976.01.16 : Cita z Pohraniční stráže (F2) = 1340
1988.01.08 : Cézar od Pavlišina CS = 1034
1983.04.14 : Gyra z Pohraniční stráže = 874
1996.10.24 : Dalos Duna Fehérlófia = 1033
1977.10.20 : Ara z Pohraniční stráže = 702
1984.09.23 : Flota z Rosíkova CS = 653
1992.02.02 : Omar z Krotkovského dvora CS = 1118
1991.10.05 : Fea Jimili CS = 650
1994.02.22 : Amálka od Buližníku CS = 982
2001.04.12 : Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- = 748
1996.10.17 : Dik Břevnovská stopa CS = 858
1994.01.27 : Hasso z Kladenské záře CS = 778
1989.01.25 : Asta Šinárikov dvor CS = 624
1979.11.14 : Rep z Pohraniční stráže (F3) = 2682
1989.09.25 : Atos ze Šedého dolu CS = 809
1988.11.13 : Dina z Banišťa CS = 1214
1988.08.25 : Dan Balmar CS = 652
1992.03.10 : Bety Zepeř CS = 713
1991.10.05 : Farna Jimili CS = 613
1982.10.17 : Ayak z Vlamy CS = 733
1997.11.14 : Grey Wolf z Molu Es = 634
1984.10.01 : Bruna z Banišťa CS (F3) = 1130
1993.03.04 : Colt Zepeř CS = 716
1987.12.07 : Exa Vopa CS = 608
1978.11.12 : Gyra z Pohraniční stráže = 778
1995.01.17 : Adon Irpruš = 745
1996.11.10 : Milo Ruskov dvor CS = 841
1983.02.04 : Archibald z Ivánky pri Dunaji CS = 905
1987.01.12 : Káj z Rosíkova CS = 663
1992.05.30 : Aras z Jundrovského boru CS = 759
1985.01.23 : Barry z Doušova dvora CS = 989
1980.06.27 : Tola z Pohraniční stráže = 1155
1998.12.20 : Ambra Vlčí naděje = 671
1995.10.27 : Ali Reolup = 807
1993.01.05 : Amur z Ďáblova kaňonu CS = 1328
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Lists sorted for better sees:

More than 50 offsprings the first generation:

1979.11.14 : Rep z Pohraniční stráže (F3) = 245
2002.10.03 : Miky Passo del Lupo = 151
2001.04.12 : Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- = 135
1985.04.25 : Gar z Rosíkova CS = 130
1988.03.16 : Orlík z Rosíkova CS = 127
1994.09.26 : Charon Šedá eminence = 120
1989.10.14 : Abe z Molu CS = 98
1992.02.02 : Omar z Krotkovského dvora CS = 95
1998.10.27 : Clover ---(priv. Rienzi)--- = 92
1988.01.08 : Cézar od Pavlišina CS = 91
1996.11.10 : Milo Ruskov dvor CS = 89
1993.01.05 : Amur z Ďáblova kaňonu CS = 83
2002.10.15 : Duncan ---Colle del Lupo--- = 82
1993.03.04 : Colt Zepeř CS = 81
1997.11.14 : Grey Wolf z Molu Es = 81
1991.10.05 : Farna Jimili CS = 77
2003.04.18 : Timber Wolf Arimminum = 73
1973.08.30 : Lord z Pohraniční stráže (F3) = 68
1982.12.29 : Atos z Belešova CS = 68
1998.12.20 : Ambra Vlčí naděje = 67
1986.10.05 : Binc Pohostinstvo CS = 62
1985.01.23 : Barry z Doušova dvora CS = 62
1984.09.23 : Flit z Rosíkova CS = 61
1984.08.02 : Astor Mot'ovský dvor CS = 60
2004.11.11 : Vaicko Passo del Lupo = 60
1995.10.27 : Ali Reolup = 60
1991.03.03 : Cord Šedá eminence = 55
2001.12.04 : Edgar Passo del Lupo = 55
1988.08.25 : Dan Balmar CS = 54
1982.07.17 : Bary z Rosíkova CS = 54
2004.01.31 : Merlin Crying Wolf = 54
2001.10.04 : Last Navarre Arimminum = 54
1991.01.29 : Alan Břevnovská stopa CS = 53
1994.11.07 : Chrop z Kladenské záře CS = 53
2000.10.06 : Rendy ---Passo del Lupo--- = 51
1997.05.12 : Nord Šedá eminence = 51
1998.02.18 : Dak z Rosíkova = 51

More than 250 offsprings on 2 generations:

1979.11.14 : Rep z Pohraniční stráže (F3) = 1339
1994.09.26 : Charon Šedá eminence = 728
1985.04.25 : Gar z Rosíkova CS = 662
1998.10.27 : Clover ---(priv. Rienzi)--- = 535
2001.04.12 : Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- = 509
1988.01.08 : Cézar od Pavlišina CS = 432
1993.01.05 : Amur z Ďáblova kaňonu CS = 410
1996.11.10 : Milo Ruskov dvor CS = 397
2002.10.03 : Miky Passo del Lupo = 384
1997.11.14 : Grey Wolf z Molu Es = 358
1984.09.23 : Flit z Rosíkova CS = 343
1998.12.20 : Ambra Vlčí naděje = 336
1995.10.27 : Ali Reolup = 326
1992.02.02 : Omar z Krotkovského dvora CS = 316
1984.09.23 : Flota z Rosíkova CS = 310
1984.10.01 : Bruna z Banišťa CS (F3) = 309
1988.03.16 : Orlík z Rosíkova CS = 304
1994.02.22 : Amálka od Buližníku CS = 298
1985.01.23 : Barry z Doušova dvora CS = 296
1996.10.24 : Dalos Duna Fehérlófia = 294
1994.01.27 : Hasso z Kladenské záře CS = 290
1986.01.28 : Alda od Pavlišina CS = 285
1998.01.07 : Ariska della Terra Selvaggia = 283
1991.10.05 : Fea Jimili CS = 282
1983.04.14 : Gyra z Pohraniční stráže = 279
1983.02.04 : Archibald z Ivánky pri Dunaji CS = 273
1993.03.04 : Colt Zepeř CS = 267
1988.11.13 : Dina z Banišťa CS = 264
1995.03.03 : Cagi od Úhoště = 263
1980.06.27 : Tola z Pohraniční stráže = 262
1981.05.07 : Cmuka z Pohraniční stráže = 258
1987.10.18 : Ariel Lobos CS = 256
1994.11.07 : Chrop z Kladenské záře CS = 255
1982.07.10 : Ata z Richnovského dvora CS (F3) = 254

More than 600 offsprings on 3 generations:

1979.11.14 : Rep z Pohraniční stráže (F3) = 2682
1985.04.25 : Gar z Rosíkova CS = 2057
1994.09.26 : Charon Šedá eminence = 1381
1976.01.16 : Cita z Pohraniční stráže (F2) = 1340
1993.01.05 : Amur z Ďáblova kaňonu CS = 1328
1988.11.13 : Dina z Banišťa CS = 1214
1980.06.27 : Tola z Pohraniční stráže = 1155
1984.10.01 : Bruna z Banišťa CS (F3) = 1130
1992.02.02 : Omar z Krotkovského dvora CS = 1118
1981.05.07 : Cmuka z Pohraniční stráže = 1097
1984.09.23 : Flit z Rosíkova CS = 1078
1988.01.08 : Cézar od Pavlišina CS = 1034
1996.10.24 : Dalos Duna Fehérlófia = 1033
1985.01.23 : Barry z Doušova dvora CS = 989
1994.02.22 : Amálka od Buližníku CS = 982
1986.01.28 : Alda od Pavlišina CS = 938
1983.02.04 : Archibald z Ivánky pri Dunaji CS = 905
1987.10.18 : Ariel Lobos CS = 894
1987.12.20 : Atos Heol CS = 874
1983.04.14 : Gyra z Pohraniční stráže = 874
1996.10.17 : Dik Břevnovská stopa CS = 858
1996.11.10 : Milo Ruskov dvor CS = 841
1998.10.27 : Clover ---(priv. Rienzi)--- = 837
1989.09.25 : Atos ze Šedého dolu CS = 809
1982.07.10 : Ata z Richnovského dvora CS (F3) = 808
1995.10.27 : Ali Reolup = 807
1982.07.10 : Alma z Richnovského dvora CS (F3) = 782
1978.11.12 : Gyra z Pohraniční stráže = 778
1994.01.27 : Hasso z Kladenské záře CS = 778
1992.05.30 : Aras z Jundrovského boru CS = 759
2001.04.12 : Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- = 748
1995.01.17 : Adon Irpruš = 745
1982.10.17 : Ayak z Vlamy CS = 733
1993.03.04 : Colt Zepeř CS = 716
1992.03.10 : Bety Zepeř CS = 713
1977.10.20 : Ara z Pohraniční stráže = 702
1998.12.20 : Ambra Vlčí naděje = 671
1987.01.12 : Káj z Rosíkova CS = 663
1984.09.23 : Flota z Rosíkova CS = 653
1988.08.25 : Dan Balmar CS = 652
1991.10.05 : Fea Jimili CS = 650
1997.11.14 : Grey Wolf z Molu Es = 634
1989.01.25 : Asta Šinárikov dvor CS = 624
1982.12.29 : Atos z Belešova CS = 620
1991.10.05 : Farna Jimili CS = 613
1987.12.07 : Exa Vopa CS = 608
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Does anyone know how tall is/was the tallest CSW ever ?
and how small was/is the smallest CSW ever ?

How short was/is shortest ears of CSW ever ?
and how long was/is longest ears of CSW ever ?

How long was/is longest tail of CSW ever ?
and how short was/is shortest tail of CSW ever ?

How old was/is oldest CSW ever ?

What is highest number of exams obtained by CSW ever ?

Hope that someone can bring some light on thise questions ?

Greetings Rolf
I guess the CSW whit the longest ears ever, is mine...

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I guess the CSW whit the longest ears ever, is mine...

April april on you to Rolf

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I guess I was not very creative, when trying to make an Aprils fool joke

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I guess I was not very creative, when trying to make an Aprils fool joke

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But I think it looks very very real

Maby It can be used in the Pictorial Standard as the defalt, to long ears

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But I think it looks very very real

Maby It can be used in the Pictorial Standard as the defalt, to long ears

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Well the ears are long, but not too long ....if he also have very long legs ...but then he would have a very small head compared to his ears and legs

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