where you keep a wolfdog during winter: outdoor or in house.

Tana · 21/01/2013, 23h02

vila i informed myself from many sources not only wikipedia... that was only a reminder for you. I think for you this race is "failed" because you forget what purpose has at beginning.It was a dog for army, for rescue in the cold mountains. You laugh to hear only yourself... I browsed many pages , I watched a lot of documentary not only about wolfdogs but also living in pack with wolves, the wolf pack mentality, I know all the history related with wolfdog, I watched also documentary with cezar milan and choosed this race. I searched a dog for many years, to be close of White Fang, if you know the story, because my old dog Tasha has 14 years old now. She is not from pure race, is a small dog but she is still a good mother who can learn any puppy "the dog way" if i may say so. Is also a proud and very good guardian of our house for many years. A man cannot teach a dog how to behave like an older dog...you are a loser forever in this competition, i am sorry, you just do not see the reality. She is outside but not locked like yours in the house...she is free to taste, experience mistakes and learn under Tasha eye. If you walk your dog is not enough, is not the same like letting him the freedom of doing dogs things, that are not your human ones, like digging holes or hauling? Do you dig holes for your dog to make him happy or you walk with him to be you happy?See the difference?

)Why to be upset? If a lot of people jump, i must jump too because you say so or others? No thanks. If you are many you think the truth is all yours? Wrong. The reality means diversity of oppinions. If you have a small yard and take care of your dog as best as you can, is fine for him and you. But do not pretend this is the best in the world because is not. I think the nature is the supreme judge here because we all are created in nature. A wolfdog raised outside, close to the nature is better prepared for living in nature, for surviving to the challenges if you want, than one living inside house where is the human teritory. I hope you understand me but i doubt it. Same for others. This is my oppinnion and i am sorry you do not accept other oppinions than yours old ones, but i keep it

)I hope only that you do not kill me or push me because i do not want to jump :P

vila · 21/01/2013, 23h17

Yeah I see you missed my point, again. Vila is off leash on walks everyday - she has all the freedom everyday, even chases rabbits and deer but chooses to return to me. I can send you a link to my photo album to quiet your mouth, because I know Vila has explored freely off leash thousands of square meters of pure nature more that in your back yard. I really tried to be nice but I won't bother anymore. I'm happy that Vila is balanced and socialized and its nice to see some support from more experienced owners. I guess I must be doing something right

Tana · 21/01/2013, 23h54

Vila your dog is under your nose, Tana is under other dog nose...you really do not see the difference?! Take yourself another dog, older, more experienced and you will learn you can't teach a dog nothing. Is nothing about your human mentality is about wolfdog mentality. I try to be nice too, i am not a bad person , just i think in another way than you, sorry, so please watch this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWmOt...eature=related

I am sorry, i really must go to sleep now, here is close to midnight. Those are the ancestors, the wolfdog behavior about pack is the same, i can see that in the behavior of my puppy with other 3 dogs even if it is at the beginning. I am happy that i have my little pack of 3 girls and i think Tana is well teached outside house, better than i can do it inside. I hope you understand me after you will watch this and i will be honored to see your photos. In fact we all love our wolfdogs, even if they are little devils or not

. Good night or a nice day to you.

Angelika · 22/01/2013, 18h56

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I searched a dog for many years, to be close of White Fang, if you know the story ...

Aha ... simply a misguided romantic

If you really need a guard dog "to protect your small house near the Black Sea", why didn´t you take an Airedale from your breeder?

It would have been better because you´ll never understand the character of a CsW.

Tana · 22/01/2013, 22h33

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Aha ... simply a misguided romantic

If you really need a guard dog "to protect your small house near the Black Sea", why didn´t you take an Airedale from your breeder?

It would have been better because you´ll never understand the character of a CsW.

So Angelika, the smart answer ever i seen

) Hmm only because i keep a dog outside not inside my house, because i do not like to have hair and his poop everywhere and a hard to accept smell for a healthy family, i will never understand the wolfdog...hahaha. So maybe i must buy an airedale because his poop smell nice or different and his hair is blondie? Hahaha. So smelling or cleaning the dog poop and the hair, each day in a house with childrens, a house where we sleep, eat and relax ourselves after work, i will be wiser and i will have a very good relation with my dog. Hahaha. Eventually i can sleep on my floor and the dog in my bed so like that we will be in the same pack forever. Hahaha. And i do not need a guard dog, sure not, to protect my family like their ancestors did in the past when the first human tamed a wolf offering him the heat of a fire and food, for his protection in an partnership. Oh noo, i need only to be his servant, I will be happy to clean the mess and repair after him, all the time, to feed him only with raw meat and my children with bones. Hahaha .You are all very funny indeed. Never imagined you are so many , so far away from the good sense of living healthy and let wolfdogs be themselves. I will keep all my dogs outdoor even if are puppies, to make them resistant to diseases, in a good cage with a lot of grass inside, like i usually have. The best place for a wolfdog is a paddock or a pen where he can be with other dogs, not in the house. I will have like always a good relation with them, like i have from many years. For me they are companions, not my house puppets or childrens. Our house is not a dump. Have fun in yours.

) Oh and yess, i am glad to be the last misguided romantic in the world, omg hahaha

yukidomari · 22/01/2013, 23h02

I'm only sorry that your only experience with dogs was one that seemingly made your house 'a dump'......

Angelika · 22/01/2013, 23h45

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I'm only sorry that your only experience with dogs was one that seemingly made your house 'a dump'......

The dog wasn´t guilty, Jing

yukidomari · 22/01/2013, 23h58

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The dog wasn´t guilty, Jing

surely not guilty, since any regular owner with even a little training ability, at least potty trains a dog...

Tana · 23/01/2013, 01h54

Yukidomari and Angelika i really do not want to visit your houses

). I am sure my wolfdog Tana at 5 months old, can find there a nice spot eventually and something to do undisturbed. But i am still a "misguided romantic" like many normal people here, millions i may say, who have dogs outside all the time, from many races, from many years and use them for guarding houses.They never imagined that are people who think they should keep the dog inside and instead they must protect the dog to sleep well hahaha So i still keep my family inside winter and dog outside and not viceversa. Have a pleasant night with your dogs

)) Is late here so excuse me...

Angelika · 22/01/2013, 23h40

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i am glad to be the last misguided romantic in the world

Congrats ... and you made my day too.

21/01/2013, 23h02	#1
Tana Junior Member Date d'inscription: October 2012 Localisation: city :Pitesti, country: Romania Messages: 23	vila i informed myself from many sources not only wikipedia... that was only a reminder for you. I think for you this race is "failed" because you forget what purpose has at beginning.It was a dog for army, for rescue in the cold mountains. You laugh to hear only yourself... I browsed many pages , I watched a lot of documentary not only about wolfdogs but also living in pack with wolves, the wolf pack mentality, I know all the history related with wolfdog, I watched also documentary with cezar milan and choosed this race. I searched a dog for many years, to be close of White Fang, if you know the story, because my old dog Tasha has 14 years old now. She is not from pure race, is a small dog but she is still a good mother who can learn any puppy "the dog way" if i may say so. Is also a proud and very good guardian of our house for many years. A man cannot teach a dog how to behave like an older dog...you are a loser forever in this competition, i am sorry, you just do not see the reality. She is outside but not locked like yours in the house...she is free to taste, experience mistakes and learn under Tasha eye. If you walk your dog is not enough, is not the same like letting him the freedom of doing dogs things, that are not your human ones, like digging holes or hauling? Do you dig holes for your dog to make him happy or you walk with him to be you happy?See the difference?)Why to be upset? If a lot of people jump, i must jump too because you say so or others? No thanks. If you are many you think the truth is all yours? Wrong. The reality means diversity of oppinions. If you have a small yard and take care of your dog as best as you can, is fine for him and you. But do not pretend this is the best in the world because is not. I think the nature is the supreme judge here because we all are created in nature. A wolfdog raised outside, close to the nature is better prepared for living in nature, for surviving to the challenges if you want, than one living inside house where is the human teritory. I hope you understand me but i doubt it. Same for others. This is my oppinnion and i am sorry you do not accept other oppinions than yours old ones, but i keep it )I hope only that you do not kill me or push me because i do not want to jump :P

21/01/2013, 23h17	#2
vila Junior Member Date d'inscription: January 2011 Messages: 43	Yeah I see you missed my point, again. Vila is off leash on walks everyday - she has all the freedom everyday, even chases rabbits and deer but chooses to return to me. I can send you a link to my photo album to quiet your mouth, because I know Vila has explored freely off leash thousands of square meters of pure nature more that in your back yard. I really tried to be nice but I won't bother anymore. I'm happy that Vila is balanced and socialized and its nice to see some support from more experienced owners. I guess I must be doing something right Dernière modification par vila ; 21/01/2013 à 23h21

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yukidomari Moderator Date d'inscription: March 2010 Localisation: Los Angeles CA Messages: 847	I'm only sorry that your only experience with dogs was one that seemingly made your house 'a dump'...... __________________ "Learn to do well; seek judgment." www.greyfarer.com/

23/01/2013, 01h54	#9
Tana Junior Member Date d'inscription: October 2012 Localisation: city :Pitesti, country: Romania Messages: 23	Yukidomari and Angelika i really do not want to visit your houses). I am sure my wolfdog Tana at 5 months old, can find there a nice spot eventually and something to do undisturbed. But i am still a "misguided romantic" like many normal people here, millions i may say, who have dogs outside all the time, from many races, from many years and use them for guarding houses.They never imagined that are people who think they should keep the dog inside and instead they must protect the dog to sleep well hahaha So i still keep my family inside winter and dog outside and not viceversa. Have a pleasant night with your dogs )) Is late here so excuse me...