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Originally Posted by Hanka
Hello RONA: I think, you don´t know "black part" of history of the breed.
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I only heard the "soft version" of the story, i.e. that CSV worked on the borders on their own, but only stopped the refugees without hurting them.
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Originally Posted by Hanka
But what was good-army did first selection for work character. Present breeders must continue, if we want have working breed.
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Hanka, be realistic
: how many civilian CSV owners need their dog to truly work with? How many of them have enough time and energy to spend on training and working that would be comparable with the military conditions? I suppose only a very small fraction of the whole population. You can't
now expect CSV to be a "working breed" in the same sense as it was used in Czechoslovakian Army!
I think Michael is 100% right. Most owners use their dogs for sport and fun events (running, exams taking, tracking competitions etc.) and still it is better than nothing or just taking them to dog shows and collecting titles in order to claim more for the pups. CSV were designed and developed as a working breed and depriving the dogs of even the substitute of "working opportunities" would probably lead in the long run to degeneration of the true character of the breed.
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Originally Posted by Hanka
Not like in "some states". It is very sad for breeders in Czech, Slovakia, when we see wolfogs with tail under stomach in showrings. It is not WOLFDOG. It is parody to working breed. And titles from shows? They are NOTHING.
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I don’t agree. I think there are honest and responsible
and lousy breeders and owners in every country where CSV are bred and owned. It’s not a matter of a state, but rather of the owner’s character and values and the relationship between him and his dog.
As far as bonitation is concerned I wouldn’t mythologize it either - I met dogs with fantastic bonitation codes, which I wouldn’t even dare to touch, and some without bonitation, or worse bonitation codes but with pleasant character and of friendly and predictable behaviour – neither shy, nor aggressive, who had nice pups of equally good character.
I personally think (I know that many of you will disagree, but I have the right to my own opinion, especially that I’m not a breeder
) that there are lots of different types of good character among CSVs and applying one model of desired reactions makes no sense. Maybe it had in the millitary kennel but not now, when the dogs live in very versatile conditions and have very diffreent life paths. What’s more - a CSV used in dogotherapy
should not even react in the same way as a guarding CSV or the one trained for OB! It depends what you use the dog for and what you expect from him. It's just a matter of common sense, nothing more. Personally I don’t believe in bonitations as anything more than the true info code describing the dog’s size and physical appearance!
Still I agree that it would be a great shame and waste if CSV were turned into shy dog shows stars only and their characters and natural working abilities were totally neglected and lost.
But coming back to the main topic of the thread:
I’m against using CSV to work like they used to work in the military kennels without giving them the same training opportunities first. I consider this dangerous. Thanks Hanka, in a way you confirmed my point of view
