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Originally Posted by hekate

Je suis d'accord Doz ne ressemble pas a sa mère mais a ses oncles OUI!!!

Vaya Kyba


Ou encore Voice of Wolf



Photo de Doz adulte, je suis désolé mais elle a le même masque et la même forme de tete que Voice

You are wrong - you try to choose similar photos but please REALLY compare the dogs:

"V" z Molu Es have in the most cases too heavy heads

are strong and rather short legged

and overangulated

Vendetta has all these faults togehter is overangulated, with too short legs, to heavy head.


And from such female you get Doz which has totally different body, head and structure.



I wrote about Vendetta's puppies - dogs which are in Finland are hidden by the owners who are too afraid to show them to public, one dog was imported to France, one lives by the Mutara_mix breeder in Italy. My question is: why these breeders imported expensive puppies of a very poor quality female and from an unknown kennel if they have much better dogs in their kennels and in their countries? Are they stupid? NO. You know why? They were sure the puppies will not be similar to the bad mother because they will be not Czechoslovakain Wolfdogs but mixes.

Anyway maybe a beginner do not see any differences between Czechoslovakian Wolfdog and these mixes. Maybe you want to believe they are purebreed but I received toons of emails from Germany, Czech Republic and Slovakia criticizing the illegal mixes. Not even one person is protecting these dogs - they even want to list all these "untypical" dogs as mixes. The arguments I listed you I get from really experienced breeders. Because all these breeders who breed CsW longer time clearly see the cheating of pedigrees. I think French people are the only who still believe that these dogs are "good work of French breeders".

About facts:
/ mutts beed by Italian kennels "Passo del Lupo", "Foresta Incantata", (priv. Vityuhova) are offsprings of "Muratas" (white wolf-gsd-malamute-something mixes). It is official - nobody hide it.
/ the DNA test was done of the "U" de Louba Tar dog. It is Saarloos-cross and all offsprings of the "U"-litter are marked now as "Saarloos_mixes". I was informed about other crosses in this kennel - but the dogs are under "investigation" but not DNA tested till now.
/ Finish "D" litter is not purebreed also. After the topic on the English forum (http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16436) when the Finish breeder started to remove all proves from her web site to hide all wolves and their similarity with the "D" litter we started to investigate also this case and the Czech source which approved the fact that the "Mutara"-group work with this kennel also. I will ask the person which sent us very well documented proves to publish them on the forum.
/ There are French litters which also differ to much from the CsW look - show untypical colors which never appeared by Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs; show untypical double-coloured-Saarloos masks which do not exist by CsW and have other characteristics which are typical for Saarloos or American-Wolf crosses but not for this breed. We will try to make DNA tests also of these dogs. If the doubts will be confirmed -. there will be more lines marked with "MIX".