Book on the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog - English translation?

GalomyOak · 08/02/2011, 23h01

Recently, I was able to see the book written by Ing. Karel Hartl and Jindrich Jedlicka (1996/2002) - and have done a rough translation into English for myself - the book is pure gold, really a delight to read, and very informative! At some point, I remember someone saying an English version was being (officially?) worked on. Did the translation ever get finished or published? If not, I would be very happy to offer my assistance on either mission - with permission from the authors and publishers, of course.

Hanka · 09/02/2011, 08h29

Hi Marcy, officiall english version does not exist.

Mikael · 09/02/2011, 22h38

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The translation is finished. Now it has to be corrected. If this is done very soon, it can be on the market about March.

That was March 2010... I do not know what did hapen after this, but I did send a PM to the one making the English version, I will post as soon as I hear from her...

Best regards / Mikael

Vaiva · 09/02/2011, 23h35

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Hi Marcy, officiall english version does not exist.

And... unofficial?....

Priska182 · 09/02/2011, 23h45

I'm actually working on a French translation with the agreement of Ing. Karel Hartl

And after that it will be easier to obtain an English translation...

GalomyOak · 09/02/2011, 23h56

I think I have my answer.

I think there will be a book - in English - soon! The English speaking CSV world is in for a real treat!

That's great that it will also be in French soon! It's a wonderful part of history for our breed!

Priska182 · 10/02/2011, 00h08

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I think I have my answer.

I think there will be a book - in English - soon! The English speaking CSV world is in for a real treat!

That's great that it will also be in French soon! It's a wonderful part of history for our breed!

Hello Marcy,
I also think it will be really great for our breed, and I was waiting for a French or an English version since 12 years now... So I try to do it myself

It's really a big job, so when the French version will be ready, it will be really great if we can work together on an English version

I think it will be really great if we can publish them for the breed here in America

wolfin · 10/02/2011, 00h32

I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding.
When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book.
Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore.

Vaiva · 10/02/2011, 00h49

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I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding.
When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book.
Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore.

Dear, if you write this book I will ASURE the professional english translation - if you make it in Lithuanian, and I am sure you can

Not translated by myself ofcourse, but I have some friends that could help in this work!!!

wolfin · 10/02/2011, 00h54

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Dear, if you write this book I will ASURE the professional english translation - if you make it in Lithuanian, and I am sure you can

Not translated by myself ofcourse, but I have some friends that could help in this work!!!

this working... moore info soon..

thanks

michaelundinaeichhorn · 10/02/2011, 10h13

Daiva is right. Even in 2002 the information was quite limited.
You get more information if you work yourself through this website.

Michael

Koos · 10/02/2011, 11h19

Hello

The book of K. Hartl we have translated at first into the Dutch language. After that we have let made it into the German version and we have worked also on the English version.

This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month.

Greetings,

Letty de Graaff
Kennel van Goverwelle
www.graaff-goverwelle.nl

elf · 10/02/2011, 11h37

Are you all refering too "Ceskoslovenský vlcák, Ing. Karel Hartl, Jindrich Jedlicka, Brno 2002" (60p pdf) ?

If yes take care to don't reinvent the wheel, even if no perfect google translation works very good (I read it no problem through ces->eng translation), the only pitfall is google allow only something like 10 pages translation but this can easliy be solve by pdf spiting/merging (pdfsam software).

If someone is working on a new book, please include the great work done by genetic department of CZ university.

André · 10/02/2011, 11h48

CZ Univ? Which univ exactly?

elf · 10/02/2011, 12h55

I though of this one: http://www.fappz.dev.webcore.czu.cz/en/?r=2382

Would be nice to gather somewhere Universities working on CSV, and gather publications in one thread.

Mikael · 10/02/2011, 21h23

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Hello

The book of K. Hartl we have translated at first into the Dutch language. After that we have let made it into the German version and we have worked also on the English version.

This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month.

Greetings,

Letty de Graaff
Kennel van Goverwelle
www.graaff-goverwelle.nl

Nice Letty

Good Work

I want one or maybe more than one

Very best regards / Mikael

Priska182 · 10/02/2011, 22h50

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This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month.

WOW it's really nice to at list will be able to purchase it in English

Thank you for your work on it

mijke · 11/02/2011, 02h30

Of course it would be GREAT to have an English translation of this original book

But I agree with Daiva, Mikael, Vaiva , Michael, Elf and others

It is an old "standard" book about the beginning of the breed (and of course still very interesting!)

But even in 2002 the information was quite limited and on wolfdog.org this is/was (since the crash it is more limited) possible to find more info about nowadays development about this breed

So I agree with Daiva for 100% with this comment:

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I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding.
When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book.
Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore.

And I'll support writers of "new books" about the breed as much as I can

hanninadina · 11/02/2011, 10h54

@Elf are there genetics research information from the University in Czech done for czechoslovakian wolfdogs? Do you have the direct link. Or why are you refering to them?

Thanks

Christian

PS: in first short look, I could not find a word about the csw.

buidelwolf · 11/02/2011, 20h18

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@Elf are there genetics research information from the University in Czech done for czechoslovakian wolfdogs? Do you have the direct link. Or why are you refering to them?

Thanks

Christian

PS: in first short look, I could not find a word about the csw.

http://wp.czu.cz/cs/index.php/?r=107...ion=1263281364

http://wp.czu.cz/cs/index.php/?r=107...ion=1263281380

08/02/2011, 23h01	#1
GalomyOak Howling Member Date d'inscription: June 2007 Localisation: Colorado Messages: 436	Book on the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog - English translation? Recently, I was able to see the book written by Ing. Karel Hartl and Jindrich Jedlicka (1996/2002) - and have done a rough translation into English for myself - the book is pure gold, really a delight to read, and very informative! At some point, I remember someone saying an English version was being (officially?) worked on. Did the translation ever get finished or published? If not, I would be very happy to offer my assistance on either mission - with permission from the authors and publishers, of course. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

09/02/2011, 23h45	#5
Priska182 Canadian Member Date d'inscription: January 2008 Localisation: Montréal Messages: 423	I'm actually working on a French translation with the agreement of Ing. Karel Hartl And after that it will be easier to obtain an English translation... __________________ Stéphanie www.inugami.ca

09/02/2011, 23h56	#6
GalomyOak Howling Member Date d'inscription: June 2007 Localisation: Colorado Messages: 436	I think I have my answer. I think there will be a book - in English - soon! The English speaking CSV world is in for a real treat! That's great that it will also be in French soon! It's a wonderful part of history for our breed! __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

10/02/2011, 00h32	#8
wolfin Moderator Date d'inscription: September 2003 Localisation: Where the wolf lives Messages: 6 095	I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding. When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book. Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore. __________________

10/02/2011, 11h37	#13
elf Member Date d'inscription: October 2006 Messages: 766	Are you all refering too "Ceskoslovenský vlcák, Ing. Karel Hartl, Jindrich Jedlicka, Brno 2002" (60p pdf) ? If yes take care to don't reinvent the wheel, even if no perfect google translation works very good (I read it no problem through ces->eng translation), the only pitfall is google allow only something like 10 pages translation but this can easliy be solve by pdf spiting/merging (pdfsam software). If someone is working on a new book, please include the great work done by genetic department of CZ university. __________________ http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...m/csvstat.html

09/02/2011, 08h29	#2
Hanka Senior Member Date d'inscription: November 2003 Localisation: Kadaň Messages: 1 622	Hi Marcy, officiall english version does not exist.

10/02/2011, 10h13	#11
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Date d'inscription: September 2003 Localisation: Bad Dürkheim Messages: 2 249	Daiva is right. Even in 2002 the information was quite limited. You get more information if you work yourself through this website. Michael

10/02/2011, 11h19	#12
Koos Member Date d'inscription: December 2003 Messages: 731	Hello The book of K. Hartl we have translated at first into the Dutch language. After that we have let made it into the German version and we have worked also on the English version. This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month. Greetings, Letty de Graaff Kennel van Goverwelle www.graaff-goverwelle.nl

10/02/2011, 11h48	#14
André Junior Member Date d'inscription: November 2004 Localisation: Portugal Messages: 76	CZ Univ? Which univ exactly?

10/02/2011, 12h55	#15
elf Member Date d'inscription: October 2006 Messages: 766	I though of this one: http://www.fappz.dev.webcore.czu.cz/en/?r=2382 Would be nice to gather somewhere Universities working on CSV, and gather publications in one thread. __________________ http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...m/csvstat.html

11/02/2011, 10h54	#19
hanninadina Senior Member Date d'inscription: November 2003 Messages: 2 466	@Elf are there genetics research information from the University in Czech done for czechoslovakian wolfdogs? Do you have the direct link. Or why are you refering to them? Thanks Christian PS: in first short look, I could not find a word about the csw.

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