Saarloos mixes by "Crying Wolf" kennel (CSV red colored)

[Jennin Lauma]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

As far as my understanding Saarloos also have as Margo says Nordic breeds in foundation. I think the earliest 'original' project was GSD x wolves but later additional breedings involved wolves outside of Europe as well as Nordic mixes. If so, I could easily see how a red Saarloos would be of similar coloration to red huskies.

Some Saarloos have white masks like Nordic sled dog breeds. This is hard to believe to have come from GSD, and even harder to believe to originate from wolf...
So there are some coat color patterns in Saarloos, that question the officially stated origin of the breed (=GSD & European Wolf)

BUT, the brown (bb) coat color does exist in GSD (see my previous post), so it is possible that this color came into Saarloos from GSD's.

I have tried to find out more information about the brown color in Saarloos;
-when and where did it first occur?
-were any of the early stud dogs (GSD's) known carriers of the trait (brown themselves, or had brown in their lineage)?
--> I assume that it could be possible to trace back the early stud GSD lines to see if there were known brown individuals or not.
And if the brown gene (bb) where there from the beginning, it would most likely have been seen allready in the early Saarloos. If it showed up later in the game, then I think it is a sign of more recent heritage.

I'm sorry if this starts to go a little off topic...
I've once started a topic about this on the Saarloos section. I didn't get much answers there...
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16187