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Vieux 15/03/2012, 11h31   #1
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No it's me who will not give you puppies :-) :-) :-) :-)
you do not know for Ariminium? She asked me two babies, one male and one female! it proposed to double the price for the first choice! ! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
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bisnes is bisnes
you can breed all who want only not lie about purity this mix and end. moore not interesing, when they not have typical behavior from CSV.
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All judges have to give an excellent Diamond, so this dog is perfect in the standard. . .
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
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All judges have to give an excellent Diamond, so this dog is perfect in the standard. . .
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
past a IPO all alraund give for all dog great opinion, when want judge in next show too I work in this, to much good know who is in dog show. for this and is funny this his CH
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this dog too all time have ONLY excelent results in dog show and are a CH. )))
now see - dog show results is NOTHING
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Vieux 15/03/2012, 11h50   #6
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I know Sophie and she does not take the puppies to Doz, for money. !!!
but you're crazy!??!!
you are really bad to say what!!really!you do not know her!!
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I know Sophie and she does not take the puppies to Doz, for money. !!!
but you're crazy!??!!
you are really bad to say what!!really!you do not know her!!
I not am crazy, I not mas know she personality, when shes WORK speak about she in the best way. breeding atypical animals with falsh pedigree. Not important sale she or not- I not disput about this, only about falsificate and breed destroing for stupid ambition, not moore.
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we can easily find some (even!) euro or world winners which barely meet the standard. why? becuse 99% of judges have no time to read standards of rare breeds, because populations in different countries are very different too, because even a really defective dog can be shown perfectly, because, becuse, just becuse, and we all understand it, every person which was at list at one show. i can bring pure wolf/saarlos/f1/anything into csv ring and get exellent, but it will not mean that the beast i brang is csv.
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Vieux 16/03/2012, 15h35   #9
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No it's me who will not give you puppies :-) :-) :-) :-)
you do not know for Ariminium? She asked me two babies, one male and one female! it proposed to double the price for the first choice! ! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Questo è il messaggio scritto da Filippo per Sophie su facebook
"11 ore fa
Monica Gambini
  • Sophie m'a demandé qui je Sarka vos animaux de compagnie, vos chiens sont dans l'amour, et en particulier Guerya et Graal. Je ne m'inquiète pas si ils CLC - MIX ou les loups, j'ai déjà une femelle qui m'a vendu Sarka et j'adore cette race et le loup. Je suis désolé pour ce malentendu. Je ne suis pas un éleveur de mon travail et mon mari est un constructeur. Nous vivons à la campagne en Toscane, si vous venez en Italie sont heureux de vous accueillir. La Femme de la CLC (Wapi) que nous avons est pour moi et mon mari comme un fils, est notre ombre. J'espère que vous pourrez comprendre. Désolé pour le français, j'ai traduit avec google.
    Cordialement."




Sophie asked me who I. Sarka said me that your animal are bery beatiful and in particular Guerya and Graal.For me is not important if this dog are CLC-MIX or wolf because I have just one femele from Sarka and I like CLC and wolf too.
I'm sorry for this misurdestanding .I'm not one breeder and is not my work and my husband is a constructor.We live in Tuscany in rural and if you want to come in Italy you are my guest.My femele CLC (Wapi) is for me and my husband like daughter.I hope that you can understand.




I confirm that Filippo asked me two puppies from Doz and Demoniak of Sophie only because filippo like this animal and he promise me don't use never in reproduction,because Filippo is Arimminum Extra Edition owner's but he have official agreement with me and in this agreement is written that Extra Edition will be cover only one male that I will choice.Filippo like my opinion in breeding.
About double price I can guarantee that Filippo was prepared to pay for time normal price for the first choice. But now Filippo confirm me that he does not want puppies free price too .
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Vieux 16/03/2012, 18h18   #10
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Hello Sarka

First
I can not take reservations, I have many reservations already, so I do not sell my babies to breeders, families only! !
2nd
You are a liar, you have me phone a few times! ! I telephone my statement that proves it! ! You phone to Jessica several times too! !! You asked a male for your customer and a female for you! ! The price does not matter, the principal was that you have the first choice!!!!
So you asked the secret!!!! I have betrayed your trust! ! You want to know why I have betrayed your trust? Because you are a friend of Margo and Daiva! ! They told me you wanted a baby for DNA testing! ! Sarka why? Why? You do not like animals. .
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also all italiy know that you phone Suski has to have the same blood as Doz last week!!!

Whats happened Sarka, why you are a liar , you are afraid ?
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So you asked the secret!!!! I have betrayed your trust! ! You want to know why I have betrayed your trust? Because you are a friend of Margo and Daiva! ! They told me you wanted a baby for DNA testing! ! Sarka why? Why? You do not like animals. .
Sophie, I never spoke about it with you. In the fact I do not speak with you neither by phone nor by email. Please show me the proofs - you have my permit to publish our email? (chat?) exchange here on the forum for public view. Because I know nothing like this ever existed.
So please be so king and explain me the whole situation. I do not want to be a puppet in this theater.
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Vieux 16/03/2012, 18h40   #12
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They told me you wanted a baby for DNA testing! !
Great idea, and why not?
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Because you are a friend of Margo and Daiva! ! They told me you wanted a baby for DNA testing! ! Sarka why? Why? You do not like animals. .
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also all italiy know that you phone Suski has to have the same blood as Doz last week!!!

Whats happened Sarka, why you are a liar , you are afraid ?
sory but you my dear are now liar- I know Sarka like a good breeder but we not are a friends.
I think she very like animals, but not love a lie and falshing
p.s. I too give a permision for publishing this texts about your conspiracy theory

I go to buy a popcorn
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Vieux 16/03/2012, 20h21   #14
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Sophie, is there any problem having the DNA of descendants of Demoniak, Doz and Vendetta x Mephisto? Why should I be afraid?
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Vieux 16/03/2012, 20h22   #15
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Ok .. Because you block my words on this forum and can t speack Sophie post for me ... I have some mails from
Sarka who want from my kennel our blood line ( Volos / Dracula and demoniak ) she explain that it was a co owning with some friends ... After i was close to Sophie when she propose to buy 2 puppies from us to dog show and breeding ... Strange file not ?? For bad blood line famous kennel write to us ... Of course our puppies are not use in bad intentions and for that I explain to Sophie that she can dream all the nigth .. Philippot or anybody else can dream on ... Regards lamb of this forum ... Frank capiez ( if some need copy of mails I receive I can give ) money money money ..
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Vieux 16/03/2012, 20h42   #16
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Message from Franck, because he steal can't post

Waouuuu so much Bad words in this topic ...really you have a real big problem ... For information in France we have an exam to have the pedigree and breed with our dogs ..and the juge accept or not only if the dog is in the standard ...if for you have a wolfish type is not the standard shame on you because it s the standard ... Nothing else are in my blood line than what is wrote on pedigree ... Sorry if you don t have same result with your marriage .... Margo never use same blood and never crying wolf the most wolfish dog in Europe with passo del lupo ...after it s your choie and don t blâme if in few tzars your smaller smaller dog arrive ... Use allways sale Male Like eligo don t give a good example for you Margo who want give best chance to our breed ... Money money money ... Perhaps you can cross him with poodle ... I can give you some French kennel adress ... ) best regards drama forum ... For your information if few people like to be manipulate like lamb in this marketing PERON ....not me ... !!!" God save this queen " but not me !!! Best of the best for you ... Frank capiez ... (big honor to be so important in few moment in tchecoslovaquian wolfdog world )
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