Demoniak de la Louve Blanche

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by hekate

Waouuuu so much Bad words in this topic ...really you have a real big problem ...

Yes, you right. I have problem with it. As many people do. Not personally - I will not use any of those mongrels. But there is something bigger: you are destroying this breed. And soon or later the breed will get banned in France because of you and your illegal wolf crosses which can be really dangerous. I hope only that this ban will not spread in Europe.

Originally Posted by hekate

For information in France we have an exam to have the pedigree and breed with our dogs ..

Which exam... a DOG SHOW. Judgement written by a judge. I can arrange a paper for you from a judge that you are breeding sheeps....
In short: don't make me laugh.
We do not need exams but DNA tests.

Originally Posted by hekate

Nothing else are in my blood line than what is wrote on pedigree ... Sorry if you don t have same result with your marriage ....

Thanks God I do not have the same results as you... Because I do not cross my dogs with mixes. Thanks to this you can see by all of them Jolly (and not the 'neighbors' mixes as it is the case by you).

Originally Posted by hekate

Margo never use same blood and never crying wolf the most wolfish dog in Europe with passo del lupo ...

Frank, do me a favour: read finally the breed standard.... Read a bit about the breed.

Originally Posted by hekate

Money money money ..

Yes, you right. But not about me but about you. Lets see who is cheating the pedigrees. Suski who never bred any wolfish dog. Passo del Lupo who has in Italy huge competition of much better breeders than he is and because of it he had problems with selling his puppies. Now you - in France where there are already serious breeders who have pure Wolfdogs and who you are not able to defeat.
All of you would be never able to sell the amount of puppies which you produce. Especially that with your lack of knowledge about this breed you would never be able to breed any wolfish dog.

Now we can read that the people offer you double prices. In the hard time when other French breeders sell really nice puppies for normal amount of money. You see... people want to pay double prices for dogs with fake pedigrees (and they want to pay such huge amount of money because the EXACTLY know that the dogs are not pure but crosses ). It is the only reason why your business is running and other businessmen who want to make money with dogs are joining you.
But remember: one day the 'purity DNA test for Wolfdogs' will be done and all of these deceived people will come to you and ask compensations. Because you didn't sell them Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs but mongrels. And it apply to whole 'Mixes mafia' in Europe.

Originally Posted by hekate

Perhaps you can cross him with poodle ... I can give you some French kennel adress ... )

Please do it - post here the list of French kennels which you do not like and who do not like you and this what you are doing. In this way we will have a list of serious French breeders posted here....

Now serious:
I see you decided to lie till the end - it is your decision. But we know the truth, you and me know exactly that those dogs are crosses and you breed dogs with fake pedigrees. We know what is told next to the show ring, in the phone calls and in the private talks. You are mixing your dogs with mixes and it is well known. For this reason you do really not need to speak with me - you will not convince me because I know that you are a liar. But you can still try to convince some poor people on the French forum. Maybe they will still believe in your words. I will not (you know it). And it is boring (although also somehow funny) to read your assurance that the dogs have real parents written in the pedigrees.

[martiou07]

I am going to answer you their place Margo, it is the mix of bloods Flash Crying wolf and Yvanka de New Flame who gives this type of CSW

It is the explanation that I had

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by martiou07

I am going to answer you their place Margo, it is the mix of bloods Flash Crying wolf and Yvanka de New Flame who gives this type of CSW

It is the explanation that I had

REALLY! Only Frank, who do not have the brightest idea about the CsW lines can say something like this.... He is really thinking that all people have no knowledge about this breed. It is a pity that in France there are still young people who never saw the dogs and therefore they believe on everything what Frank is saying.

Yvanka de New Flame is 100% Czech dog. Additionally she brings the heavy type of Colt Zeper (with short legs). The children of Yvanka should look like this:


'Light version' would be like this:



And Flash and the whole F-litter was pretty short legged and in many cases very overangulated (they have pretty special type of body).

It is enough to look on the dogs of breeders who use pure Crying Wolf 'lines' - they all have pretty many problems with overagnulated and short legs. And with Czech blood you will not make it better. On the contrary.

No - with the pedigree of Demoniak you will never get wolfish dogs who has so long legs. Only children believe in fairy tales. If you breed two chickens you will never get a swan.
Last but no least: by Crying wolf you have NEVER black dogs. By Chech lines of Yvanka you will get darker brown-red colour but NEVER the colour of Fragön and Fantastik Wolweryne. Frank, maybe they get this colour from the (black?) poodle which you mentioned?

[martiou07]

Originally Posted by z Peronówki

REALLY! Only Frank, who do not have the brightest idea about the CsW lines can say something like this.... He is really thinking that all people have no knowledge about this breed. It is a pity that in France there are still young people who never saw the dogs and therefore they believe on everything what Frank is saying.

Yvanka de New Flame is 100% Czech dog. Additionally she brings the heavy type of Colt Zeper (with short legs). The children of Yvanka should look like this:


'Light version' would be like this:



And Flash and the whole F-litter was pretty short legged and in many cases very overangulated (they have pretty special type of body).

It is enough to look on the dogs of breeders who use pure Crying Wolf 'lines' - they all have pretty many problems with overagnulated and short legs. And with Czech blood you will not make it better. On the contrary.

No - with the pedigree of Demoniak you will never get wolfish dogs who has so long legs. Only children believe in fairy tales. If you breed two chickens you will never get a swan.
Last but no least: by Crying wolf you have NEVER black dogs. By Chech lines of Yvanka you will get darker brown-red colour but NEVER the colour of Fragön and Fantastik Wolweryne. Frank, maybe they get this colour from the (black?) poodle which you mentioned?

Yes Margo, really, it is the explanation that we gave me even recently, seen the big expert of the race whom we have in France, I indeed wonder why the race is not patronized by the France