Meeting of North American Wolfdogs?

GalomyOak · 12-02-2008, 04:47

I absolutely agree that this breed should be protected, which is part of why I think a breed club would be a good idea. For potential future owners, a US breed club would likely be the first stop in their search- and would be a chance for experienced CsV owners to educate, and either help a potential owner that is a good match for the breed, or politely help to dissuade someone that is interested for the wrong reasons - before they purchase a dog. Also in forming a breed club, I think we would be protecting ourselves in the horrible event that some dog warden might try see to them as a hybrid - by being part of a club for a dog breed. It would be a great place to maintain records of our dog's clean record of behavior (no biting, or attacking), and of their future accomplishments.

We licensed our dog last week in our county with her breed name "Ceskoslovensky Vlcak", and also presented her to our vet with the same breed name (our vet is very involved in the local AKC/UKC agility string), with no problems. In our state, it is legal to own a hybrid - the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries has left it up to localities to control hybrids, and within our county, it is legal to own a hybrid with a permit, which of course has it's own stipulations for enclosures, and liability insurance. But of course, our dog is not a hybrid, and we never emphasize her wolf heritage to people that are encountering the breed for the first time. First impressions seem to go much better when people realize that it is a dog they are meeting - after lots of dog kisses and belly rubs, we are happy to answer questions. Anthea was quite the charmer at the vet's office for her examination, behaving perfectly - not shy, not aggressive, and appropriately interested in the happenings of the clinic. She was also her very obedient self - for treats, of course! I wish we could say the same for our GSD who also tagged along with us- she is not a fan of vet clinic visits.

johnslawek · 12-02-2008, 17:59

A meeting of owners and their dogs sounds great, and if the logistics could be worked out it would be terrific. As all are aware, the eastern USA is geographically much larger than western Europe with Maine to Virginia alone being 900 miles away. That ride would be daunting with several wolfdogs along for the trip. Somewhere around northeastern Pennsylvania would seem fairer for all. But, if you desire to come to Wintergreen, Virginia, that could be arranged as dogs are permitted. Keep in touch and let me know if a meeting anywhere is set. With enough advance notice I would attend with Frida Crying Wolf.
John Slawek

GalomyOak · 13-02-2008, 03:54

Are there any times during the summer that would work (or not work) for everyone? I'm a teacher, so I have lots of free time.

roo · 13-02-2008, 15:55

Sounds like we need to set a date (summer?) and place (wintergreen, kansas, other?) and start getting specific feedback on potential participants/comittments. As mentioned, the meeting would be a great time to discuss setting up a North American CZW breed organization. Starting small is okay - it is at least a start, and you have to start somewhere! Any takers willing to step up and propose a specific date and location, solicit the feedback, and then begin organization? I'm willing to assist/help/lead/follow...

I'm really looking forward to meeting others in the U.S. that are as fortunate as I am to have a CZW as part of my family/pack!! This truly is a unique and (albeit sometimes challenging) very rewarding and worthwhile breed!

GalomyOak · 13-02-2008, 23:16

In choosing a state, we may want to be wary of the state's, and locality's legislation regarding wolfdogs - I imagine we may attract some attention as a group - we want only positive attention!

Earlier, I know we had interest from California and Colorado - is that interest still there? If we decide to meet in Virginia, it gets pretty hot in July, and June and August are pretty toasty too, although perhaps it is cooler in the mountains? We live near the Chesapeake Bay, on the "rivah" as we call it down here - it is rather humid in the summers, which we love, but it's not for everyone.

Would the week of, or one of the weekends around, June 23rd, work or not work for anyone?

roo · 14-02-2008, 00:48

Yes, the week of, or one of the weekends around, June 23rd is fine for me as long as we set it within the next month or so and then I can begin to plan around it. Anyone else??

Trust me, it can't get much more humid and muggy than a balmy summer day in Louisiana. Anywhere north from here would be an improvement...

Owner: Robert Routon
Dog: Bora od Starkej (Cescie Bell), 15 months old

Kat · 14-02-2008, 01:11

Hey guys! The week of June 23rd would be fine for us. My only concern with where we hold it is the distance. Elek doesn't particulary like car rides so we have to give him dramamine. I would not want more than a 10 hour drive and being that we won't be able to take him on a plane, driving is the best option for us. Let's get a list of "confirmed" people that want to do this and then we could possibly work out a state? Depending if our house is sold here in NY by June, we will be in North Carolina at that time.

12-02-2008, 17:59	#2
johnslawek Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wintergreen, Virginia Posts: 20	Potential Meeting in USA A meeting of owners and their dogs sounds great, and if the logistics could be worked out it would be terrific. As all are aware, the eastern USA is geographically much larger than western Europe with Maine to Virginia alone being 900 miles away. That ride would be daunting with several wolfdogs along for the trip. Somewhere around northeastern Pennsylvania would seem fairer for all. But, if you desire to come to Wintergreen, Virginia, that could be arranged as dogs are permitted. Keep in touch and let me know if a meeting anywhere is set. With enough advance notice I would attend with Frida Crying Wolf. John Slawek

13-02-2008, 15:55	#4
roo Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lousiana Posts: 21	Meeting of CZW's in North America Sounds like we need to set a date (summer?) and place (wintergreen, kansas, other?) and start getting specific feedback on potential participants/comittments. As mentioned, the meeting would be a great time to discuss setting up a North American CZW breed organization. Starting small is okay - it is at least a start, and you have to start somewhere! Any takers willing to step up and propose a specific date and location, solicit the feedback, and then begin organization? I'm willing to assist/help/lead/follow... I'm really looking forward to meeting others in the U.S. that are as fortunate as I am to have a CZW as part of my family/pack!! This truly is a unique and (albeit sometimes challenging) very rewarding and worthwhile breed!

12-02-2008, 04:47	#1
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	I absolutely agree that this breed should be protected, which is part of why I think a breed club would be a good idea. For potential future owners, a US breed club would likely be the first stop in their search- and would be a chance for experienced CsV owners to educate, and either help a potential owner that is a good match for the breed, or politely help to dissuade someone that is interested for the wrong reasons - before they purchase a dog. Also in forming a breed club, I think we would be protecting ourselves in the horrible event that some dog warden might try see to them as a hybrid - by being part of a club for a dog breed. It would be a great place to maintain records of our dog's clean record of behavior (no biting, or attacking), and of their future accomplishments. We licensed our dog last week in our county with her breed name "Ceskoslovensky Vlcak", and also presented her to our vet with the same breed name (our vet is very involved in the local AKC/UKC agility string), with no problems. In our state, it is legal to own a hybrid - the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries has left it up to localities to control hybrids, and within our county, it is legal to own a hybrid with a permit, which of course has it's own stipulations for enclosures, and liability insurance. But of course, our dog is not a hybrid, and we never emphasize her wolf heritage to people that are encountering the breed for the first time. First impressions seem to go much better when people realize that it is a dog they are meeting - after lots of dog kisses and belly rubs, we are happy to answer questions. Anthea was quite the charmer at the vet's office for her examination, behaving perfectly - not shy, not aggressive, and appropriately interested in the happenings of the clinic. She was also her very obedient self - for treats, of course! I wish we could say the same for our GSD who also tagged along with us- she is not a fan of vet clinic visits.

13-02-2008, 03:54	#3
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	Are there any times during the summer that would work (or not work) for everyone? I'm a teacher, so I have lots of free time.

13-02-2008, 23:16	#5
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	In choosing a state, we may want to be wary of the state's, and locality's legislation regarding wolfdogs - I imagine we may attract some attention as a group - we want only positive attention! Earlier, I know we had interest from California and Colorado - is that interest still there? If we decide to meet in Virginia, it gets pretty hot in July, and June and August are pretty toasty too, although perhaps it is cooler in the mountains? We live near the Chesapeake Bay, on the "rivah" as we call it down here - it is rather humid in the summers, which we love, but it's not for everyone. Would the week of, or one of the weekends around, June 23rd, work or not work for anyone?

14-02-2008, 00:48	#6
roo Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lousiana Posts: 21	Yes, the week of, or one of the weekends around, June 23rd is fine for me as long as we set it within the next month or so and then I can begin to plan around it. Anyone else?? Trust me, it can't get much more humid and muggy than a balmy summer day in Louisiana. Anywhere north from here would be an improvement... Owner: Robert Routon Dog: Bora od Starkej (Cescie Bell), 15 months old

14-02-2008, 01:11	#7
Kat Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 29	Hey guys! The week of June 23rd would be fine for us. My only concern with where we hold it is the distance. Elek doesn't particulary like car rides so we have to give him dramamine. I would not want more than a 10 hour drive and being that we won't be able to take him on a plane, driving is the best option for us. Let's get a list of "confirmed" people that want to do this and then we could possibly work out a state? Depending if our house is sold here in NY by June, we will be in North Carolina at that time.