Tail

Mirkawolf · 28-03-2008, 11:48

The pic that did not show up in the previous post..

The same dog - what a horror, he is being measured!

Navarre · 28-03-2008, 22:34

Mirka, I understand what you said, but i think that the pictures of bonitace that you put on don't say nothing: even dogs with good character (but not trained for this) in this situation can put the tail under the belly.

We saw this at the last bonitace in Italy : absolutely friendly and self confident dogs (especially females) in this new situation put the tail sometimes down. Don't forget that for many of these dogs the most similar situation that they lived was with...the scary veterinary !!!

Mirkawolf · 28-03-2008, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Navarre

Mirka, I understand what you said, but i think that the pictures of bonitace that you put on don't say nothing: even dogs with good character (but not trained for this) in this situation can put the tail under the belly.
We saw this at the last bonitace in Italy : absolutely friendly and self confident dogs (especially females) in this new situation put the tail sometimes down. Don't forget that for many of these dogs the most similar situation that they lived was with...the scary veterinary !!!

I´d maybe agree with this, if I was not present on the bonitation and just saw the pictures. However, I was there and had a chance to observe this (and other dogs) for the whole time of the bonitation, not only when they were measured or even worse, character tested.
And this dog (and some others) were really absolutely scared out of their mind, if anyone would look at them, approach them or try to manipulate them.
I do not call such dogs friendly and confident, but shy and badly socialised.

If a dog is not socialised well and not confident, this will always show up, no matter what the situation is. And opposite, if a dog is self-confident and well socialised, it can handle well even unknown and stressful situations.

Therefore, I will keep my opinion, that shy and unsocialised dog is a shame of its breeder and owner, and creates bad reputation for the breed much more, than a dog with tail up this way or that way

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28-03-2008, 22:34	#2
Navarre VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Roma Posts: 5,998	Mirka, I understand what you said, but i think that the pictures of bonitace that you put on don't say nothing: even dogs with good character (but not trained for this) in this situation can put the tail under the belly. We saw this at the last bonitace in Italy : absolutely friendly and self confident dogs (especially females) in this new situation put the tail sometimes down. Don't forget that for many of these dogs the most similar situation that they lived was with...the scary veterinary !!! __________________ Susanna & Gianluca & Andrea & Navarre & Isabeau & Brandimarte & Anastasia & Lana Last Navarre & Beau Isabeau