in the U.S.

GalomyOak · 05-04-2008, 17:10

If you are interested in meeting a CSV in person, Wolfdogs16, we are located not too far down from you, in Gloucester, on the Middle Peninsula. We imported our dog, Anthea, from the Czech Republic. Our dog is licensed and vaccinated, as a dog, with her correct breed name, with our county. The breed is recognized by the Foundation Stock Service of the AKC, something that other wolfdogs in the US can not claim. Our dog is in the process of being registered with the FSS. We requested that her papers reflect her breed's native name of Ceskoslovensky Vlcak, rather than Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, mostly so we would not draw the attention of our homeowner's insurance (it is legal to own hybrids in my county, with a permit, just in case a problem should ever arise, but we are very responsible, so I do not foresee that). The FSS agreed to register Anthea under the name of Ceskoslovensky Vlcak, and I believe is planning to convert the name of the breed officially - the lady we have been corresponding with at FSS, said to check the website, it would be reflected soon...I hope the name change does not present a problem for any of the other owners in the US...I see it as a positive.

Our dog's behaviour is very predictable, and very much that of a dog - the culmination of the hard work of very strict and knowledgable breeders over many decades. I had the opportunity in college to work with a grey wolf education/reintroduction program, and our dog acts in no way as the wolves did. Our dog participates in basic obedience (just for socialization, she already knew all the commands that are taught) with the local AKC kennel club, and will be starting agility in May. She is an angel with my husband's cousins (ages 5 & 7), and is friendly, though aloof with new faces. It doesn't take her long to warm up though, and she is always out in the yard to greet cars that pull up. She plays fetch with strangers (if we are in the yard, however, she brings the toy to us

- she is incredibly loyal). She barks if there is something worth barking at, especially if she is confined and cannot investigate up close. She also enjoys venturing out with us - at the beach, in Petsmart, at local festivals, and is always very obedient.

I'd have no problems with someone coming to meet with us this summer - although I am not sure we have solidified our plans - John Slawek has been very gracious in trying to locate an appropriate setting - would you be planning to bring a hybrid with you? I don't know if that might cause issues...

Again, if you are interested in meeting our dog, I'd be happy to get together one weekend.

Marcy

cindy23323 · 07-04-2008, 19:24

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I'd have no problems with someone coming to meet with us this summer - although I am not sure we have solidified our plans - John Slawek has been very gracious in trying to locate an appropriate setting - would you be planning to bring a hybrid with you? I don't know if that might cause issues...

Again, if you are interested in meeting our dog, I'd be happy to get together one weekend.

Marcy

I'm also in Va. and own American wolfdogs, I'm curious as to what you meant by it might cause issues?

wolfdogs16 · 07-04-2008, 23:27

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Originally Posted by cindy23323

I'm also in Va. and own American wolfdogs, I'm curious as to what you meant by it might cause issues?

I got a private email from John, and he asked if I would/could bring my wolfdog, of course, I had to tell him what a car sick bad traveler she is....but he did not mention a "problem". Wolfdogs are legal in VA. And, yours and mine are ambassordors and as well behaved as any good natured pure dog...

To all, speaking for Cindy and myself, most people welcome meeting our animals, its a good thing, and educational as well. As busy as our normal rescue schedules are, if the time could be found to get together with owners of the animals here, I think it would be a very positive thing to happen. just my 2 cents.

cindy23323 · 08-04-2008, 00:04

Two of my guys I take to the local Dog Park here everyweekend, everyones alwasy amazed by them, they get along great with all the doggies, big and small there. If for some reason any of them dont like my high content Loki hes really well behaved, he will automatically lay down letting them know he doesnt have a problem with them.

cindy23323 · 08-04-2008, 00:36

Here's a small video of my high content at the doggie park, watch what he does, the white lab snapped at him a couple times.Thats not a muzzle he's wearing by the way its just a halti, its the same thing as a gentle leader, its used to teach animals that like to pull to stop. He can open his mouth all the way while wearing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMAhT5ppwPQ

johnslawek · 08-04-2008, 02:58

Wolfdogs16,
Upon reviewing my mail-No! the gesture of an invite was to you, not you and your wolfdog. We have exchanged mail, and upon exploring your web site kindly consider the invite withdrawn. Your wolfogs and the CSV are at cross purposes. I do not intend to engage in an imbroglio, but do strive to set the record straight. The CSV is not and has not ever been in trouble in the States. As such the CSV does not require a defense to the authorities as you have insinuated in your writings. The inconsistencies and stretches are unnecessary. We CSV owners in the States are attempting to coalesce into a small group with a single purpose of advancing the CSV in the States. The CSV is a registered breed as supported by authentic documents. Thus zero help to dispel any fears with this fine creature is not requied. I have had experience enough with both CSV and wolfdog to know that the CSV has no relation to the American hybrid. I wish nothing but the best for your organization and respect your zeal as a rescuer of wolfdogs. Unfortunately there is no mutual benefit to our meeting, and fostering false incentive would only waste your time.
Regards, John Slawek

Hanka · 08-04-2008, 05:55

Ha ha ha John. I sold one puppy male to Seattle. When behind common control owner told to veterinary doctor it is czech. wolfdog, he started to have problems. Before it he was a few time by doctor for vaccinations and other normal visits and doctor told him- it is sweet puppy, friendly, quite....I told him- tell to all doctor it is some sheepdog mix and you will have not problems.....Is big different between our pure breed and "wolfhybrids". Sorry, but it is common word here. Don´t watch- if it is "right word" or no.(Last sentences are not for John

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wolfdogs16 · 08-04-2008, 15:17

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Originally Posted by johnslawek

Wolfdogs16,
Upon reviewing my mail-No! the gesture of an invite was to you, not you and your wolfdog. We have exchanged mail, and upon exploring your web site kindly consider the invite withdrawn. Your wolfogs and the CSV are at cross purposes. I do not intend to engage in an imbroglio, but do strive to set the record straight. The CSV is not and has not ever been in trouble in the States. As such the CSV does not require a defense to the authorities as you have insinuated in your writings. The inconsistencies and stretches are unnecessary. We CSV owners in the States are attempting to coalesce into a small group with a single purpose of advancing the CSV in the States. The CSV is a registered breed as supported by authentic documents. Thus zero help to dispel any fears with this fine creature is not requied. I have had experience enough with both CSV and wolfdog to know that the CSV has no relation to the American hybrid. I wish nothing but the best for your organization and respect your zeal as a rescuer of wolfdogs. Unfortunately there is no mutual benefit to our meeting, and fostering false incentive would only waste your time.
Regards, John Slawek

It's not the "csv" thats the trouble, is the uneducated members of various animal control authorities who sometimes misslable the animal as a wolfdog...and the folks mentioning the wolffog word. And I have defended the csv, you have no idea to what extent I am involved in the wolf and wolfdog goings on here. I happen to be a Federal Govt. employee of 34 years. And I am quite aware, as I have stated in many other posts here, that there is no relation of the CSV to the American wolfdog.... I was merely pointing out the common use of the term "wolfdog".

No problem. Take care of your animals and good luck.

08-04-2008, 00:04	#4
cindy23323 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Virginia, U.S. Posts: 53	Two of my guys I take to the local Dog Park here everyweekend, everyones alwasy amazed by them, they get along great with all the doggies, big and small there. If for some reason any of them dont like my high content Loki hes really well behaved, he will automatically lay down letting them know he doesnt have a problem with them. __________________ Cindy http://virginiawolves.zoomshare.com

08-04-2008, 02:58	#6
johnslawek Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wintergreen, Virginia Posts: 20	North American Meeting of CSV Wolfdogs16, Upon reviewing my mail-No! the gesture of an invite was to you, not you and your wolfdog. We have exchanged mail, and upon exploring your web site kindly consider the invite withdrawn. Your wolfogs and the CSV are at cross purposes. I do not intend to engage in an imbroglio, but do strive to set the record straight. The CSV is not and has not ever been in trouble in the States. As such the CSV does not require a defense to the authorities as you have insinuated in your writings. The inconsistencies and stretches are unnecessary. We CSV owners in the States are attempting to coalesce into a small group with a single purpose of advancing the CSV in the States. The CSV is a registered breed as supported by authentic documents. Thus zero help to dispel any fears with this fine creature is not requied. I have had experience enough with both CSV and wolfdog to know that the CSV has no relation to the American hybrid. I wish nothing but the best for your organization and respect your zeal as a rescuer of wolfdogs. Unfortunately there is no mutual benefit to our meeting, and fostering false incentive would only waste your time. Regards, John Slawek

08-04-2008, 05:55	#7
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Ha ha ha John. I sold one puppy male to Seattle. When behind common control owner told to veterinary doctor it is czech. wolfdog, he started to have problems. Before it he was a few time by doctor for vaccinations and other normal visits and doctor told him- it is sweet puppy, friendly, quite....I told him- tell to all doctor it is some sheepdog mix and you will have not problems.....Is big different between our pure breed and "wolfhybrids". Sorry, but it is common word here. Don´t watch- if it is "right word" or no.(Last sentences are not for John)

05-04-2008, 17:10	#1
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	If you are interested in meeting a CSV in person, Wolfdogs16, we are located not too far down from you, in Gloucester, on the Middle Peninsula. We imported our dog, Anthea, from the Czech Republic. Our dog is licensed and vaccinated, as a dog, with her correct breed name, with our county. The breed is recognized by the Foundation Stock Service of the AKC, something that other wolfdogs in the US can not claim. Our dog is in the process of being registered with the FSS. We requested that her papers reflect her breed's native name of Ceskoslovensky Vlcak, rather than Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, mostly so we would not draw the attention of our homeowner's insurance (it is legal to own hybrids in my county, with a permit, just in case a problem should ever arise, but we are very responsible, so I do not foresee that). The FSS agreed to register Anthea under the name of Ceskoslovensky Vlcak, and I believe is planning to convert the name of the breed officially - the lady we have been corresponding with at FSS, said to check the website, it would be reflected soon...I hope the name change does not present a problem for any of the other owners in the US...I see it as a positive. Our dog's behaviour is very predictable, and very much that of a dog - the culmination of the hard work of very strict and knowledgable breeders over many decades. I had the opportunity in college to work with a grey wolf education/reintroduction program, and our dog acts in no way as the wolves did. Our dog participates in basic obedience (just for socialization, she already knew all the commands that are taught) with the local AKC kennel club, and will be starting agility in May. She is an angel with my husband's cousins (ages 5 & 7), and is friendly, though aloof with new faces. It doesn't take her long to warm up though, and she is always out in the yard to greet cars that pull up. She plays fetch with strangers (if we are in the yard, however, she brings the toy to us - she is incredibly loyal). She barks if there is something worth barking at, especially if she is confined and cannot investigate up close. She also enjoys venturing out with us - at the beach, in Petsmart, at local festivals, and is always very obedient. I'd have no problems with someone coming to meet with us this summer - although I am not sure we have solidified our plans - John Slawek has been very gracious in trying to locate an appropriate setting - would you be planning to bring a hybrid with you? I don't know if that might cause issues... Again, if you are interested in meeting our dog, I'd be happy to get together one weekend. Marcy