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Old 16-04-2008, 10:57   #1
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as far as I know SVP1-3 and ZVP1-3 is the same ...just that SVP is in Slovakia and ZVP is in Czech rep. !
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First: what is an OFFICIAL exam?
You have one if the judge has the right to judge such exams, the rules are recognized in the specific country, the date of the exams is applied according the rules for all working exams AND last but not least after you pass the exam you will get the international certificate from the kennel club about passing an exams required for the working class.
So far as I wrote ONLY the Slovak and Lithuanian exams fulfil all the conditions....

ADDITIONALY the exams in Slovakia are registered by their kennel club not only as exams but also as competitions where the CACTs can be given....
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No...

First: what is an OFFICIAL exam?
You have one if the judge has the right to judge such exams, the rules are recognized in the specific country, the date of the exams is applied according the rules for all working exams AND last but not least after you pass the exam you will get the international certificate from the kennel club about passing an exams required for the working class.
So far as I wrote ONLY the Slovak and Lithuanian exams fulfil all the conditions....

ADDITIONALY the exams in Slovakia are registered by their kennel club not only as exams but also as competitions where the CACTs can be given....
Hi Margo

Thanks for detailed explanation

So if I get this right ? ...all there have to be changed to be able to get CACT when passing ZVP is : education of Czech judges or invitation of Slovak judges who have the right to judge these exams, the date of exams is applied according to the rules for all working exams and then it will be possible to give the international certificat(CACT) about passing exams required for working class.
....Did I get this right ?

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education of Czech judges or invitation of Slovak judges who have the right to judge these exams, the date of exams is applied according to the rules for all working exams and then it will be possible to give the international certificat(CACT) about passing exams required for working class.
....Did I get this right ?
It is even easier - ask your kennel club to translate and accept the rules (the official rules were translated so far I know to English and German) and can be obtained by the FCI office. After Danish Kennel Club will recognize the SVP1-3 exams every working judge from your country can be judge for it.... (in some countries the judges for the working exams must pass additional courses or seminars to have the right to judge new competitions but I do not know the regulations in your country).
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It is even easier - ask your kennel club to translate and accept the rules (the official rules were translated so far I know to English and German) and can be obtained by the FCI office. After Danish Kennel Club will recognize the SVP1-3 exams every working judge from your country can be judge for it.... (in some countries the judges for the working exams must pass additional courses or seminars to have the right to judge new competitions but I do not know the regulations in your country).
Thanks again Margo

In Denmark there will never be enough people to attend SVP1-3 so there is no reason for Danish Kennel Club to make these exams just for me and Uno ...I was just wondering why it is not possible to get CACT when passing ZVP1-3 !
...and also it would be very nice(and for me, more easy) if we could make this exam + get the CACT when we visit summercamp in Czech rep. as we do every year. ....but anyway we will come to Slovakia for next SVP

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In Denmark there will never be enough people to attend SVP1-3 so there is no reason for Danish Kennel Club to make these exams just for me and Uno ...
Don't be so pesimistic... If the exams will be accepted in DK you can always invite a judge (for example) from Slovakia and make at the same weekend (?) endurance run, bonitation and meeting. Not only for you - don't forget German, Dutch, and other people which for sure will some for such meeting... Also for us it would be nice to go and make the same run going by bike along the beautiful beach in Danemark...
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Don't be so pesimistic... If the exams will be accepted in DK you can always invite a judge (for example) from Slovakia and make at the same weekend (?) endurance run, bonitation and meeting. Not only for you - don't forget German, Dutch, and other people which for sure will some for such meeting... Also for us it would be nice to go and make the same run going by bike along the beautiful beach in Danemark...
Thanks for your optimism Margo

But I do not trust that Danish Kennel Club will accept this exam only for me and Uno + invited wolfdog-owners from other countries, it will also be special club(KHKG) who must accept this exam too and in special club we are only 3-4 members with wolfdogs(and many more with other breeds) and I am the only one who is training and showing my wolfdog in our club
I am not even sure that I can get any other Danish wolfdog-owners to come for this meeting that I planned to make in 2010(at same time as worlddogshow will be in Denmark) ....but now you have at least inspired me to try to get Danish Kennel Club to accept this exam
....I will let you know the Answer from Danish Kennel Club !

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Old 17-04-2008, 13:10   #7
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I have just been reading the rules(again) for SVP1-3 and I maybe asking stupid but I dont know what is this : "CWBC SR" and "SPZ" ?
...it says at Trial participation conditions part 6)

" The propositions for a trail are to be drawn up by the CWBC SR sufficiently in advance and presented to the SPZ for approval, which in turn sends them to the delegated judge."

I will be very thanksfull for any help I can get to convince Danish Kennel Club to approve these exams

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