Kazan z PS line - back to GSD?

[Margo]

Originally Posted by Hanka

When I have seen foto of Kazan on Wolfdog first time, I was surprised, because I remember him a little different. On this foto he is really not "nice". I tried find some old fotos by me , but I have not.... It is a pitty.

It would be great if you can find some photos of him....
Anyway the memories are sometimes different than the reality... I remember one of my first visits in Prag - together with Pavel we visited one kennel. I was delighted with the wolfish look of dogs I met by this breeder. There was a huge male and smaller female - fabulous animals... I though...
Years are gone... and I still remeber this feeling... but you know what? The dogs were nor beautiful wolfdogs either very wolfish... But i have good memories about them....

[massimo]

Originally Posted by Margo

Almost all shepherd dog looking CzWs are Kazan "line"...
Over 20 years are gone since Czech people used this dog and you can still see very negative influence of Kazan in untypical heavy heads, short legs, black masks and lympathic bodies....

Originally Posted by Margo

without Kazan (or by using new blood but of a TYPICAL crossing) the dogs in CZ would be 100x better than at the moment... And more heathy...

I posted my message just because you wrote this.
Maybe not all readers know that Kazan has not only produced dogs with many defects but dogs with his blood are also some of the best looking dogs around.
YOU say that it's Kazan's fault for the negative influence and dogs with him in pedigree could even be better without him.
This you cannot prove... and it's a very clever "word game"
If it's bad, it's his fault, if it's good it's surely not thanks to him.

I believe, instead, that Kazan's presence helped avoid the CHATASTROFIC imbreeding on REP which was all around.
I am not so sure that the breed would have been better and healthier without Kazan...actually I'm convinced of the opposite.
I do not agree, on the other hand, that the breed is so bad today that we need fresh wolfblood. Expecially if it's not even the same wolf from which the breed was born.
BUT... I repeat, many people didn't agree with the "Kazan" idea either.

Moreover, to my eyes Czech dogs look, in general, less wolfish indeed... but much healthier than Slovak ones.

One of my favourite females.
http://www.wolfdog.org/ita/dbase/p494-6.html
I even like her daughter a lot
http://www.wolfdog.org/ita/dbase/d6653.html
And her brother is very famous in italy for having one of the best "bodies" ever: (the pic on WD is awful though)
http://www.wolfdog.org/ita/dbase/p490-6.html

They have lots of Kazan in them.