Black under jaws, from wolf or GSD ???

[hanninadina]

Ina, do you have pictures from your now over 1 year old wolves, so that we can see that there is no black mask any more? The pics you gave us the link show only young wolves under one year. If I understand it right you say that wolves have till one year black mask.

Is it with every grey wolf so? I thought I saw young wolves with white mask.... For me it is completely new that europaen grey wolves have black mask in the first year.

Christian

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Ina, do you have pictures from your now over 1 year old wolves, so that we can see that there is no black mask any more?

Christian

Or maby we can just believe her word about it Christian

Regards / Mikael

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by Mikael

Or maby we can just believe her word about it Christian

Regards / Mikael

Thank you Mikael but no need to do so, on the 4 pages in my link you can see when the photos have been made, they mostly have been put into the forum shortly after taking them, I think they nicely show the developement of masks. The wolfs have been born midth of April. But I am sure you did understand my third post.

And this are about 6-7 week old CSW puppies: http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/de/gallery/pic/30945/
these are about 5-6 weeks: http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/de/gallery/pic/30796/
this one about 10-12 weeks: http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/de/gallery/pic/16257/
I think they show very nicely that Saschia has been right.

Regards Ina

[Juniorwolf]

Please forgive me if some of you dont think this is the right thread to ask this question !

I have seen some CSW`s who don`t have a straight muzzle(bending down on the last part just before the nose) and I have never seen it on any GSD or wolf before, so I wonder if anyone know where this comes from ?
...I havent seen all GSD or wolves, so maybe some of you have seen it on one of thise two animals before or is it a mutation caused by inbreeding(like outstanding eyes and curly coat) ?

Greetings Rolf

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Hello,
I don´t exactly know what you mean, if it is the kind of mask you quite often see in dark-coloured wolfdogs this is something I have seen in wolfs too. I think it is just a variability in colour.

Regards Ina

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Hello,
I don´t exactly know what you mean, if it is the kind of mask you quite often see in dark-coloured wolfdogs this is something I have seen in wolfs too. I think it is just a variability in colour.

Regards Ina

I guess he means not the color, but the form Like this: http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/lt/gallery/pic/43671/

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by Vaiva

I guess he means not the color, but the form Like this: http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/lt/gallery/pic/43671/

This is an absolutely normal mask of an elder dog.
I thought something like this http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/de/gallery/pic/12307/ this kind isn´t so uncommon in dark coloured dogs. I have seen it in wolfs, I think it´s just a question of genetic variability.

Ina

[Juniorwolf]

Hi Ina,

No I don`t mean the mask, but shape of the muzzle :

not straight muzzle


straight muzzle


Greetings Rolf

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Vaiva

I guess he means not the color, but the form Like this: http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/lt/gallery/pic/43671/

Hi Vaiva,

yes like this ...sorry, but i did not see your post before I already made one my self

Greetings Rolf