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I had a talk with a vet specialized in dogs internal metabolism. He told me I should not feed my dog with raw meat ; I argued about wolves diet etc... but he told me the wolves in the wild often died because of kidneys trouble around 8 years of age.
My wonders, what is the average life time for wolves in the wild ? What are the death causes ? Is it true that wolves often died of kidney troubles because of their raw meat diet ? What implications for wolfdogs diet ? |
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Hello Elf,
all my wolfdogs eat raw meat . They never had health problems, dysplasy, alergic problems. They are strong and they can work (pull sledge) to 10 years and more. Raw meat is nature food. I think, in nature is not much 8years old wolves. maybe in Canada, Rossia. But in Evropa the wolves have not chance to live so long time ![]() ![]() |
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Hi all,
Please remember that wolves also eat roots, berries etc. Only raw meat will not be a balanced diet. Try to ask yourselves why captive wolves live a lot longer than their wild siblings! Flinch |
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I do not know exactly how mush berry a wolf eats, but it is alot !!!
So 100% raw meat is not a wolfs diet, better to give 75% meat, and 25% vegetables I think. Swedish foxes was examend in the winter time and had about 70% of vegetarian diet and only 30% of meat. I also think it is important to vary the food a little with fish, lamb, chicken, differant vegetables, berrys and fruit. I also always put in omega-3 and some olive oil. And at the moment I still give some puppy dog food. Regards / Mikael
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Wolves not eat only raw meat, they eat bones, cartilages and organs togheter as coat and skin.
If you only give raw meat for your dog he will surelly have kidneys problems as lack of some nutricional points, but if you give a complet carcass this situation change. And no, wolves don't die with kidney problems caused by raw meat as I know, they die because parasits, wounds and viral illness like distemper and rabies. A 8 years wolf is already a good age that few animals arrive in nature, with this age his body don't work as when he was yung, not such endurace, not such recovering and not such good imunologic system as before, but even like that you can easly find on youtube a material about the "druid's pack" grey wolves pack guide by an alpha couple with 9 years old wich die in fight with other pack.
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I'm following BARF diet. For this vet this diet is a real risk for kidneys, so still wondering...
Also, what about average life time of dogs ? For him, they are living older, for what I read it's the opposite, so ... |
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Wow, I don´t know if you react to me
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my dog hate vegetables. any kind of. he eats only meat (raw pig, cow, chicken, fish,...), cow or pig bones, organs and rice somethimes, some olive oil, vegetable soup (eats only "wather" and pasta from it, vegetables not)... he also hates fruits. i give him vitamins - tabletes - in his food also. sometimes i cut the vegetblas in sooo small pieces and give it into rice, and he eats a little bit, but thats it...
i also think, that only meat isnt good. but i know a lot of dogs, they eat only meat and they are healthy.
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![]() Me dogs eat only RAW and whe have in Lithuania RAW club and RAW eat dogs like Great Dog, English buldog and chichua chua or Yorkshire terrier. If this dogs cann this eat and be live ![]() |
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Last edited by Pavel; 26-10-2008 at 14:49. |
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Thanks from my dog
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![]() ![]() ![]() First, as people already wrote here - PURE meat diet is not NORMAL for CzW because wolves do not eat pure cleaned chickens or beef in the nature... ![]() ![]() What your vet said is not bullshit but CAN BE true... ![]() So for sure you can NEVER use it for dogs which have already problems with the kidneys. The other question is if our dogs are more like dogs and can not handle such ketogenic diet or are still more like wolves. Anyway also by wolves ketosis led to low-grade of acidosis - it is the reason why wolves must drink large amounts of water to aid in proper digestion. So if a dog has kindney problems such type of feeding can make the problems bigger. If the dog is healthy but for example because it will not get enough of water and will not excrete uric acid it will cause increased amount uric acid in the blood (-> gout) and the higher blood uric acid level can also increase the risk of kidney failure.... But remember - it 'CAN'... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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